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grahamwi
United Kingdom
20 Posts |
 Posted - 19/11/2010 : 15:37:08
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I'm just completing a total rebuild of a PA which I bought in a number of tea chests and without any weather equipment. I am now at the point where I need to consider the hood and side screens but have virtually no information on their design and attachment to the car.
Since I have never seen a P type with the hood erected (nor any other MMM for that matter!) I have had no opportunity to examine one and would be most grateful for any information, particularly on the side screens, drawings, photos or even the loan of a side screen as a template.
Many thanks,
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sas
United Kingdom
73 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2010 : 16:42:40
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Hello Graham,
Please could you advise if your PA is a 2 or 4 seater, the latter as you know are scarcer with 495 sales, the former 1385.
I do not own one, but there are a number of sources for information available, including photographs.
Knowing which it is will narrow the search for all able to assist you.
Sean |
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3230 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2010 : 19:04:17
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Hi Graham
Have you tried the very informative web site www.mgmmm.com where there is quite a bit of info on hoods.
Sports and Vintage Motors sell new hood frames for our cars. I purchased one of these and used it to set the position of the hood on my L2 including ensuring I could sit in the car with the hood up!
This subject was covered in some detail on this forum - you can search the Archives.
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Edited by - George Eagle on 19/11/2010 19:06:30 |
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grahamwi
United Kingdom
20 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2010 : 23:27:12
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Hello Sean/George,
Thank you both for your rapid response to my request. My car is a two seater and before I went to print I did look at the mgmmm site and also searched the Register archive. However, following your response I have looked again at the former and found some extremely useful drawings of both the hood and the sidescreens even though much of the information is in Dutch. There are also many other articles which I wish I had known about earlier!
When searching the Register archive, I did find some photos of a sidescreen without dimensions which will now be very useful in combination with the aforementioned drawings but if you can point me towards any more details it can only be helpful.
Best regards,
Graham |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3672 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2010 : 09:13:50
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Graham
Regarding sidescreen dimensions, would it help if I were to send you a paper pattern? Do bear in mind though that no two cars are the same, so this should only be regarded as a guide!
Best wishes
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Terry Andrews
United Kingdom
546 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2010 : 16:21:06
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Hi,
Please see the photos below of a P type which had what I believed to have an original hood and sidescreens. Note that the near side sidescreen does not have a bar. The off side sidescreen does have a bar with a covered flap to allow the driver to give hand signals. I hope these are of use to those rebuilding P types…..Terry 
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Onno
Netherlands
1031 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2010 : 16:50:40
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Graham
If you need anny help in translation of Dutch just ask, it should not be a problem.
Onno (dutch) Könemann
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Nick Dean
United Kingdom
440 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2010 : 21:52:48
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Graham, I have a new hood & sidescreen on my PA. I have never used
them, I cant stand them up etc, but you are more than welcome to
borrow them as a pattern.
good luck Nick, on 01202 824048 Dorset.
N A Dean |
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Bob Stringfield
United Kingdom
854 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2010 : 14:18:20
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I am in Staffordshire if you want to measure.
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grahamwi
United Kingdom
20 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2010 : 18:02:56
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Thank you all very much for your responses to my query. I hope you won't mind if I send a collective reply:
Dick, I believe I have enough information, but should that not prove to be the case I will contact you for the pattern you kindly offered.
Terry, Many thanks for the photographs, they will be extremely useful to the trimmer, together with the dimensions I have now obtained.
Onno, I think the drawings on the Dutch web site should be self explanatory but I will bear in mind your generous offer.
Nick, Thank you for your very generous offer. I have located a hood and tonneau which have lain in a garage for fifty years and I believe they are both from a P type. However, the rear window of the hood is a different shape to that shown in Terry's photos above and it would be useful to know what shape yours is to arrive at some form of consensus. Could you post a photograph?
Bob, I think I now have the dimensions, but I'm most grateful for your kind offer.
Again, thank you all for your help; I'm amazed at the generosity of MG enthusiasts.
Best regards,
Graham |
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Nick Dean
United Kingdom
440 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2010 : 20:10:42
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Graham, glad you ahve sorted out the hood etc.
I would sugest an oval back window as this looks more period
than a sq unit. I had a sq window in my L type hood years ago
and it never looked any good.
Good luck Nick.
N A Dean |
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1485 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2010 : 10:10:46
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My PA, which I bought in 1960 and it still lives with me, has an oval rear window in the hood. As Nick says it looks right viewed from outside looking in, but it was bxxxx awful from inside looking out !
Colin B. |
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Bruce Sutherland
United Kingdom
1552 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2010 : 14:01:09
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I offer the following 'builds' to comments about the size and position of the hood rear 'window' and the 'field of view' from the interior rear view mirror.
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grahamwi
United Kingdom
20 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2010 : 16:56:44
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All,
Thank you for your continued interest in my query; your comments are both noted and appreciated.
Best regards,
Graham |
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2501 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 23:11:59
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In the mid '60s I had a hood made for my 2 seater P Type by a local coach trimmer in Perth (the Scottish one). He didn't need the car as he had patterns & produced a hood in one piece, i.e. it wrapped right round from the trailing edge of one side-screen to the trailing edge of the other, without the triangular in-fill pieces shown in Terry's pics & other places. It also had a fairly small rectangular window.
He'd obviously been in business for a long time & I wonder if anyone else has/had a similar hood? Could it be that there were two different designs used by the factory?
Cheers,
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
988 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 11:30:20
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Dave,
I had a hood made for my PA by mail order from Don Trimming in Birmingham in 1989, from a pattern they held. It was and still is a good fit (it's hardly used), but is much as you describe yours. For many years I thought this was correct, until I started mixing with the MMMs from south of the border. It doesn't bother me one way or the other, and is probably quicker to put up than the one with the extra clip-on panels.
Colin. |
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