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Westbury
United Kingdom
1949 Posts |
 Posted - 13/04/2017 : 21:46:43
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Many thanks to all for your inputs so far.
MGs were the archetypal British Sports Car which has given so much not only to Britain but also to the World.
Shame MG do not make wonderful sports cars as they once did.Let us hope that the great days will return!
Incidentally,my NA Reg No AYT197 was originally purchased new in 1934 by a Lt.Commander Day (RN) from Cornwall.
Chris
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Tim Sharp
United Kingdom
294 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2017 : 22:18:39
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Chris
PB 0685 was originally sold to Miss M Paul who I believe was head housekeeper at a hotel in the New Forest.
Regards
Tim
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gardiner
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 08:25:48
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J2 2707 supplied new by Halloway Bros, Market Drayton 18/3/1933 to
Mr Ian Scott Hawke Dennis
Oakley Hall
Market Drayton.
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dade
United Kingdom
503 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 09:26:10
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Hi All
My PB was purchased by William Elliott a Fire Officer at Headlam Street, Newcastle upon Tyne.
Dealer was R Wilson (Monkseaton) Ltd, The main agent in that area was
A Smart.
Car was delivered with a scratch on the wing for which Smarts claimed from MG the repair bill of £1.10 shillings, MG thought this excessive and sent a £1.00!!
I have photos of Mr Elliott's sisters sitting in the car outside an imposing house.
A few years ago I had the pleasure of meeting Mr Elliot's Daughter and being able to show her "Dads Car". This was made possible through this Forum.
At the moment the spread of owners range from Doctors, Housekeepers, Fireman, Serviceman, Publicans not a bad spread.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/04/2017 : 09:52:21
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Originally posted by dade
At the moment the spread of owners range from Doctors, Housekeepers, Fireman, Serviceman, Publicans not a bad spread.
And linen merchants and ship builders and engineers and motor traders!
Simon J
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gardiner
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 10:02:01
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Re j2 2707, Mr Ian S H Dennis was son Cyril Charles Dennis, High Sheriff of Staffordshire.
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Vitesse
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 13:11:28
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Interesting contradictions on the birth date of Mr Dennis. His January 1982 death notice in The Times says he was 66 - as do the entries in the death register and the probate calendar. However, the birth date in the death register says March 15th 1916, which would make him only 65 - so presumably a typo for 1915.
Even so, I get the impression Mr Dennis must have had a very indulgent father for him to take delivery of a new MG just two days after his 18th (or 17th!) birthday! |
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Vitesse
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 13:24:35
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Originally posted by Westbury
Many thanks to all for your inputs so far.
MGs were the archetypal British Sports Car which has given so much not only to Britain but also to the World.
Shame MG do not make wonderful sports cars as they once did.Let us hope that the great days will return!
Incidentally,my NA Reg No AYT197 was originally purchased new in 1934 by a Lt.Commander Day (RN) from Cornwall.
Chris
Possibly to celebrate his promotion to Commander that year? Another RN career man, who retired as Vice Admiral Sir Archibald Day in 1955. Hydrographic and surveying specialist, which he carried on doing in Civvie Street.
http://www.unithistories.com/officers/RN_officersD2.html
Author of this, a copy of which will set you back a fair few quid!
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gardiner
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/04/2017 : 13:32:33
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Re j2 2707, Mr Ian S H Dennis was son Cyril Charles Dennis, High Sheriff of Staffordshire.
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1949 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 13:54:26
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Thanks Vitesse.
' My' Lt. Commander Day had the initials F.C.N. in case of any confusion. Wonder if He was related to Sir Archibald Day?
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leafrancis14
United Kingdom
323 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 14:00:53
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My PA was bought by a guy called Donald Moir and used by his two sons. Donald was a senior person in the import/export company Agar Cross. The family lived in Uruguay and the 2 boys travelled to and from (first class!) Merchiston School in Edinburgh every year. They seem to have finally come back to the UK in 1936, and 3 months after that the car was registered. They lived just down the road from Peter Green. They had it at least until 1938 when the younger son bought a grab handle from Abingdon. Both of them served in the army during the war, one in the Royal Engineers and the other in the Army Service Corps, both ending up with the rank of Major. I sometimes wonder if they bought the car in 1936 or whether they had it before then and brought it back with them, since it was delivered to University Motors in March 1935. After all, it wouldn't be difficult for a senior person in Agar Cross to arrange shipping! And intriguingly, Agar Cross had a relationship with MG post war importing TC's to Argentina.
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Malcolm Eades
United Kingdom
379 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 14:39:40
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Am I right in thinking that consumer finance is a relatively modern phenomenon? I can vaguely remember when the UK banks were allowed to make unsecured personal loans to individuals. It opened the floodgates and left us with an economy heavily reliant on consumer spending. If no such finance was available in the thirties and only a cash purchase was possible, then this tends to suggest that prospective buyers of MGs either had inherited wealth, had generous parents with inherited wealth or were members of the rising middle class, so were relatively well-off as professionals in good jobs. This tends to be confirmed by what we know of the various individuals identified in previous posts. But could one not say as much of any car buyer in those days? So I would suggest that there is also an "X-factor" that distinguishes MG owners. We know that a lot of early owners competed in their cars, so had been bitten by the motoring bug and its potential for having fun. And this included women. We know that some of the brand's offering was "drive it to work in the week, compete in it at weekends" which also implied ease of maintenance for the owner-driver Owners appreciated a focus on performance and road-holding rather than ponderous comfort. I suspect part of the X-factor was also a wish to be different from the crowd, to have a car that turned heads and impressed friends (we've all been there!) Headlines about race wins and record-breaking did much to reinforce this feeling of distinctiveness and served to combat what we now know as "buyer's remorse". Rather than rely on a cliche like "X-factor" perhaps I might coin another term for this unique(?)combination of characteristics that give birth to the MG owner: "Esprit de Kimber"!
Malcolm
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1949 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 16:33:44
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Excellent deductions Malcolm. This'MG Effect' must have had a subconscious feeling on me even as a very young boy when my Uncle Ron showed me his
Singer Lemans in the early 1950s.I distinctly remember saying "Is it an MG?" To which my uncle replied"No, but it looks like one, doesn't it?" On reflection, I'm sure he wished it was.
Little did I know what a great part MGs were to play in my life!
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powerplus
United Kingdom
599 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2017 : 17:37:38
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MG PA (PA 0647), Reg.no. BGN 444, was originally sold to Lieutenant Commander H.C.Stock in 1934, whose address was recorded as H.M.S Valiant at Sheerness. By 1935 the ownership of the car had passed to Ken Scales, who was a member of the Manchester and District trials team. Later he successfully campaigned the car in various trials as Norwester II within the team known as Norwesters - comprising Jack Terras' MG PB BTU 260 and Jack Twyfords' MG PA BLG 363. Restoration of BGN 444 is currently nearing completion.
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2017 : 03:04:48
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This memo regarding K.0404 which was a K1 saloon
Black/brown . Black wheels. Sold by Car Mart Ltd. Euston Road.
The second to the last line should read "..either the owner or the.."
Reminds me of a Bob Dylan line. "Money doesn't talk, it swears."
Brian. No Connection with the car.
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