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Dolts
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/07/2017 : 20:21:46
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As you can see previously from the Mary Harris lists and the MGCC races, we use the terms as Fred points out, D to C spec or J2 to J4 spec etc. I simply cut and pasted the VSCC entry list sent to me. I usually update before posting and will make sure I do in future.
Mark Dolton
www.triple-mracing.com
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Blithe Spirit
United Kingdom
185 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2017 : 09:06:53
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It depends upon what the owner said on his VSCC "buff form" eligibility application. It looks like the car should have been classed as a modified J2. If the application said J4 and the supporting photos looked like a J4 it would probably have slipped through. We do see from time to time P types entered in VSCC events as Qs, even though they have the wrong track, wheelbase and cc. Strangely the same does not seem to happen with Rileys, as we get modified saloons with shortened chassis, TT Sprite bodies and 200 bhp still called "Kestrel".
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Pots
United Kingdom
118 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2017 : 11:03:30
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You are correct David, the VSCC simply pull the description from the title used by the owner when he/she registers the car with them.
The VSCC have clearly 'allowed'/not noticed that the owner has declared their car to be something it is not.
Ultimately it is the owner who is most at fault, in my view. They know what their car is and have described it, in this example, as a J4 when they know it to be a J2.
Surely if you own a J2 and it is shown on the VSCCs system as a J4, you would contact them to correct it ???
I suggest that the owners in question, send a note to the VSCC to say that their car is in fact a J2 not a J4. Problem solved..........
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2017 : 12:11:46
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| Excellent point Duncan .Going back to MGCC races how can a J2 styled as a J4 rep be described as a J2 to J4 spec and a D as a C rep when 4.2 of the register rules stated here a few days ago says it should be called a J2 or D? If rules are laid down they need to be adhered to not change depending on the event/club. |
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1128 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2017 : 12:50:32
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Guys can I have my Thread back!
I m sure there will be a few conversations at Cadwell.....in principle i cant disagree.
Sometimes I m in a difficult position, trying to encourage people to race and fill the grids. I don't want to then tell them their car isn't what they say it is, although I do at times or others support. Also I don't want to stir the politics of a selective club like the VSCC with different rules on eligibility.
I m trying to find a balance between the rules and the owners view. But hey I m open to support, I cant spin any more plates!
This discussion is not new, so can I have my positive thread back on Cadwell. 2 capacity grids!!
Mark Dolton
www.triple-mracing.com
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Pots
United Kingdom
118 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2017 : 14:32:16
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You are right Mr.D, we have gone off piste a bit here !
I was only enthusing this morning with Chris C. about Cadwell, both very much looking forward to it... (The said Chris C. being the king of Shelsley Walsh hillclimb of course, well Class 1/2 anyway !)
On a social note, I guess most of the MMM'ers are getting there Friday night ? Emma and I, and probably the girls, will be camping on the Friday night, might even bring some Ghost Ship !!
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1128 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2017 : 14:34:40
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Fab, yup I ll be there mid afternoon to set up the Triple-M paddock.
BRing your own BBQ Fri in the paddock. If anyone has a BBQ they could bring please shout. I won't be able to fit the barrel in!
Mark Dolton
www.triple-mracing.com
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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
355 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2017 : 16:08:59
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| We will be there mid-afternoon on Friday , bringing a smallish barbeque and helping to set up ; and of course , looking forward to Duncans 'Goat Shi* !' Pleased to see we have , yet again, an excellent turn-out of MMM cars for both days. |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/07/2017 : 17:22:25
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Gill and I are coming up for the weekend – arriving Friday sometime, staying at the Splash pub just down the road at Little Cawthorpe. Available to help and join in any shenanigans.
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Pots
United Kingdom
118 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2017 : 13:53:08
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Now returned from Zandvoort safe n sound...... Car still in one piece and ready for Cadwell. In terms of logistics and kit, we will get up there mid afternoon to help with securing paddock space and setting up and will bring a small BBQ which would do for 6/8 people, gazebo, small table and the gas burner that cooked 100kg of onions at Brands ......
If anyone is interested, I could bring one of the polypins (36 pints) of ale similar to that taken to Brands.....(might need small ££contribution from participants)... Can't imagine there will be any interest...
Looking forward to it.
(Zandvoort excellent event, 6 MMM cars racing.... Fred, Thijs, Andrew M, David C, Hamish and me.... all MG cars and drivers went well, sun shone and the sea was warm !...I am sure photos etc. will appear at some stage...)
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2017 : 14:19:01
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| Pictures hopefully not of you on Friday night after the meal/beer consumed -)) |
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1128 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2017 : 15:10:06
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Yup looks like we have one of the largest Grassy areas to ourselves.
I ll be getting the boundary rope out on arrival!
Mark Dolton
www.triple-mracing.com
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colintf
United Kingdom
1481 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2017 : 17:08:59
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Sounds like a good plan coming together. We should be there early afternoon hopefully, not not yet sue what in or what with. Will keep you posted.
Sounds like a great time was had by all then Duncan :)
D0285
Photographer for MGCC (LeMans Classic, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc) & MG Motor (BTCC 2012-5)
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1128 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2017 : 13:57:27
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Final entries confirmed, BRAVO!!!
MGCC Baynton Jones Historic Motorsport Challenge
A 4 Cylinder Non Supercharged - Sports Cars
71 Hamish McNinch MG PA
111 Mike Davies Colley MG PA
B 4 Cylinder Supercharged - Sports Cars
66 Duncan Potter MG MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
103 Mark Reece MG J2
106 Chris Edmondson MG D
85 Andrew Morland MG PA
9 Simon Jackson MG PB
56 Fred Boothby MG J2
57 Barry Foster MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
65 Dave Cooksey MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
59 Andy King MG PB
89 Chris Cadman MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
C 6 Cylinder - Sports Cars
75 Roger Tushingham MG Nas
107 Richard Jenkins MG KN
46 Charles Jones MG L s
43 John Gillet MG K3
53 Alex Hewitson Riley 12/4 Special
D 4 Cylinder - Racing Cars
193 Rod Seber MG PB
58 Mark Dolton MG PB
28 Mike Painter MG Kayne Special
31 Harry Painter MG PA
52 Nick Hayward-cook Austin 7 Monoposto
96 Philip Parkinson Austin 7 AD Tourer
E 6 Cylinder - Racing Cars
51 Tom Hardman MG Bellevue Special
104 Jane Metcalfe MG NA
98 David Seber Wolseley Hornet Special
VSCC MG vs Austin Challenge
71 Boursot (Anne) Miss A. MG PA
89 Cadman (Chris) C. MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
65 Cooksey (David) D.H. MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
58 Dolton (Mark) M.D.J. MG PB
106 Edmondson (Christopher) C. MG D
43 Gillett (John) J.A. MG K3
51 Hardman (Thomas) T.A. MG BELLEVUE Special
107 Jenkins (Richard) R. MG K TYPE MAGNETTE
46 Jones (Charles) C.F. MG L
59 King (Andy) A.R. MG PB CREAM CRACKER
104 Metcalfe (Jane) Mrs J. MG N MAGNETTE
85 Morland (Andrew) A. MG PA
31 Painter (Harry) H.G. MG PA
28 Painter (Mike) F.M.T. MG KAYNE
66 Potter (Duncan) D.H. MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
103 Reece (Mark) M. MG J2
193 Seber (John) J.A. MG PB
110 Smith (Christopher) C.J. MG NB
75 Tushingham (Roger) R. MG NA
4 Skeavington (John) J. AUSTIN ULSTER REPLICA
101 Moore (Robert) R.A.C. AUSTIN 7
96 Parkinson (Philip) P. AUSTIN AD TOURER
19 Pedersen (Christian) C. AUSTIN 7 SPECIAL
52 Hayward-Cook (Nick) N.J. AUSTIN 7 MONOPOSTO
45 Elder Mark Austin 7
38 Groves Mark Nick Powell AUSTIN LA SPECIAL
Reserve
57 Foster Barry MG MONTLHERY MIDGET
Mark Dolton
www.triple-mracing.com
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colintf
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/07/2017 : 14:13:06
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What a great line up this is :)
D0285
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