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LewPalmer

USA
3208 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2018 :  19:08:36  Show Profile
I must say that I am totally impressed by the knowledge and observational powers of members of this forum. For example, I would never have noticed the footwear of Mr. Paul in the last photo. However, I did notice the presence of the MG "High Speed Service Van" over his right shoulder, supporting Cathelijne's conclusion that it was taken at the MG works.

Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560
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Cathelijne

Netherlands
744 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2018 :  19:38:36  Show Profile
Am I going mad or is the registration of the J1 MV 6694 in the first pic and MV 6699 in the third??? And is it really a J1??? The radiator seems a bit more 'sloped' in the third pic than it does in the first. And the doorline is D or F, not J1, right? Or did the early J1s have D bodies?

Oh, and David Downes, do you have any thoughts on the slipper perhaps?
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spatek

United Kingdom
211 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2018 :  20:02:18  Show Profile
I would say MV6694 looks like aJ1 or D but MV6699 is an F1
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Dow

United Kingdom
490 Posts

Posted - 31/12/2018 :  08:59:24  Show Profile
Thanks so much for that Cat. My thoughts are quite unprintable !
Father Christmas seems to have got lost with my 2019 FIA approved loafers. Gout proof ones cost more but worth it !


Regards
David D

Edited by - Dow on 31/12/2018 09:00:51
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rossstephen

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 31/12/2018 :  09:14:38  Show Profile
What a fantastic momento to have.

I have been looking for a piece of Cyril Paul memorabilia, ideally to link him to my house.

I just missed an interesting photo shown below.

A few years back his Atmos clock was sold by Bonhams. According to the vendor I spoke to, it was presented to him after a Le Mans race.

If anyone comes across Cyril Paul (the racing driver!) memorabilia, please let me know - thanks.

Stephen









S A Ross
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Hugh

United Kingdom
73 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2019 :  20:27:02  Show Profile
At the entrance to the MG works behind CJ Paul with car 31 is a vertical steel joist with some writing within. It looks like DEAD 6’ 5W = . May be the RSJ is part of a gantry, or gate way to which these instructions apply. Is anyone able to explain, please?

Cat, thank you for the additional information on the three C A Paul pictures.

Hugh
J3091
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mgmog

United Kingdom
460 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2019 :  20:40:29  Show Profile
Dead weight of the ramp into the garage maybe?

Rich Stott
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Cathelijne

Netherlands
744 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2019 :  21:47:23  Show Profile




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KevinA

New Zealand
668 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2019 :  23:47:49  Show Profile
not a weight restriction, just a speed one



Dead Slow
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Hugh

United Kingdom
73 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2019 :  10:07:21  Show Profile
Thank you, Cat.
Obvious now. Instructions for the High Speed Service Van parked near by, and others.

Hugh
J3091
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sam christie

United Kingdom
3051 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2019 :  13:14:37  Show Profile






Sam
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rossstephen

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 13/01/2019 :  16:01:41  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Vitesse

quote:
Originally posted by rossstephen

Disappointingly, I cannot find evidence that this is the racing driver Cyril Paul's premises in these wonderful photos.
It would appear that they belong to Cyril ALBAN Paul who was a motor trader according to a bankruptcy notice in the London Gazette, 8 November 1938. Adverts also show CA Paul's other premises in London and Manchester.

The racing driver Cyril JOHN Paul, was brought up and lived in my house I discovered from another bankruptcy notice in the London Gazette, 19 February 1932.
I attach a photo of CJ Paul with his MG C type at his ‘garage and engineering works at Finchley for high-class tuning’ in 1932 before working for Brooklands Motor Co in Euston. His trade plates on the vehicle were 161 MO. You can see a MG service van in the background.

Does anyone know where exactly that was in Finchley, London?

S A Ross


The 1930 phone book has an entry for 'Cyril Paul & Cattermole' at Dollis Park, London N3. Phone number Finchley 4051. No building number, so possibly near the Regents Park Road junction? Most of the road called Dollis Park looks like 1930s suburban housing, but there's a modern development called Dollis Mews which might be the site. You might find more clues in an old Kelly's Directory. What appears to be Cyril's home address is in NW9.

I don't think there's any connection between the two. It appears that Cyril Alban Paul was actually born - and died - in St Albans.



Many thanks, with your assistance I believe I have located CJP's "garage and engineering works at Finchley for high-class tuning". Behind Dollis Mews there is an impressive entrance to a further yard which would have had garages/workshop. The circular hole in the brickwork above the entrance arch looks like it was for a clock. The doors carry ornate wrought iron hinge straps. I attach photos I took and an old map showing the "works" at the location. I will add this to my growing CJP booklet!

















S A Ross
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Vitesse

United Kingdom
234 Posts

Posted - 13/01/2019 :  19:49:23  Show Profile
Lovely! Probably worth investigating further if you can get your hands on a trade directory of the time, which might just clinch it. I've also just checked the historical imagery on Google Earth. The good news is there's a 1945 air photo. The bad news is the building's obscured by a low cloud ...
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rossstephen

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2019 :  16:55:39  Show Profile
Good idea - aerial photo from a bit earlier - 1921 appears to show arched top of front elevation to works entrance at the end of the mews





S A Ross
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rossstephen

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2019 :  16:07:46  Show Profile
I have finished my booklet about Cyril Paul now. Thanks to all of your for your helpful comments and information. If anyone want a copy I'll email it to you

S A Ross
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