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sam christie

United Kingdom
3041 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2017 :  22:50:23  Show Profile




A picture from "The Motoring Encyclopedia" of about 1933. Does the M.G. survive ?

One wonders what a good example of 'cutting in' would look like.

Sam

DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3668 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2017 :  23:57:07  Show Profile
This may be D0301 although there is very little info on file about this car or whether it has survived. Ted Hack may be able to add to the general knowledge, though ......

Dick Morbey
PA-PB0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
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PeterL

United Kingdom
1703 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2017 :  08:24:01  Show Profile
Does it survive? It would be a miracle if it survived beyond 1933!

I think it has a sniff of the Fs about it. Do we know it is a D?

P
(F0313, F0637 &F1344!)
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sam christie

United Kingdom
3041 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2017 :  09:59:27  Show Profile





The views above show the same car (Fig.5 and Fig.6)

I suggest the book is from 1933 because the M.G. illustrations seem to suggest that year.









The book came as a magazine and when the set was collected they could be sent off to be neatly bound.





This is a later tired looking example of the bound version currently on eBay for £15 or you can buy the unbound set (also currently on eBay) for...£102 !





Sam

Edited by - sam christie on 11/08/2017 10:00:57
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tedsmgs

United Kingdom
32 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2017 :  14:29:28  Show Profile
Unfortunately the Registration number is not the D lists - there are about 25% first registrations missing. The second picture could be D or F?!
Ted.
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Gordon

United Kingdom
689 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2017 :  14:45:37  Show Profile
Can anyone identify what the other 2 cars are?

Gordon
ex owner of PB 0331, MG4473
Derby
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DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3668 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2017 :  15:04:40  Show Profile
Ted, I almost cannot believe this, but was that your ever first posting to the Forum?

Dick Morbey
PA-PB0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
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mgtommm

USA
496 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2017 :  22:08:47  Show Profile
Early road rage.....

It's obvious the 2 drivers are sharing a one finger salute in the second scene after the MG lady performed a bad example cutting in.



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Cooperman

United Kingdom
751 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  12:56:32  Show Profile
I wonder why the open car has a traders plate?

John Cooper M 628
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Ian Bowers

United Kingdom
936 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  16:20:04  Show Profile
If you compare the pictures they appear to be posed, and edited (smoke) to make a point. So trade plates are part of the stock situation. The picture from the back of the woman could not have been taken at the same time.

Ian Bowers
OD 6791
J3 3772
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Christian Cottes

France
114 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  17:49:58  Show Profile
The photographs are obviously posed and touched thereafter (see the shades in various directions in fig 6). A near to normal focal length was used, so they were taken from the road or very close to the sides. The cars were probably standing still, otherwise the wheels, among other details, would have been blurred. The substantial depth of field suggest a low shutter speed.
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
5945 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  18:04:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Christian Cottes

The substantial depth of field suggest a low shutter speed.



The substantial depth of field would suggest a small aperture, perhaps necessitating a slow shutter speed, but not necessarily.

Oh dear, I do need to get out more

Simon J
J3437
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Christian Cottes

France
114 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  18:39:19  Show Profile
Simon, you need to close the diaphragm to obtain some depth of field, and a very, very sunny day to combine this aperture with a high shutter speed. Especially in the 30's when films were very slow and minimum apertures on current lenses in the range of f8/f11.

This discussion derives from the original topic, but it shows that one must be as cautious in the interpretation of period photographs as we are now with digital ones edited on Photoshop.
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Vitesse

United Kingdom
234 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2017 :  23:40:30  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by sam christie





A picture from "The Motoring Encyclopedia" of about 1933. Does the M.G. survive ?

One wonders what a good example of 'cutting in' would look like.

Sam


A bit of research in the COPAC library database and the Daily Mail Archive reveals that the original 'Motoring Encyclopedia' was issued in weekly parts, starting in October 1932, with a hardbound version following in 1934. It returned - again in weekly parts - as 'The New Motoring Encyclopedia', as illustrated above and published from October 1936. The Science Museum Library has a copy of the hardbound version of that, but doesn't hazard a date, recording it as '193-'! Probably 1938.
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