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Justin Heal
USA
177 Posts |
 Posted - 17/11/2017 : 15:56:07
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| Still looking for the center bearing cheese for a PA engine, will be in England over the Christmas season so have a UK shipping address is that's easier, only part needed to start my engine rebuild? |
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1949 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2017 : 19:23:16
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With the continuing requirement for this obviously rare and difficult part as well as the main bearing cheeses for the six cylinder cars I cannot understand why our suppliers fail to fill this particular void.
Chris. |
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paul55
Luxembourg
728 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2017 : 19:46:16
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Does anyone have the sizes of the cheeses for the various engine types. On the 6 cylinder cars there has to be two diameters, one smaller at the gearbox end to be able to get the crank into the block.
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Mike Strong
United Kingdom
223 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2017 : 07:38:25
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| Sports and Vintage Motors list the PA centre bearing "cheeses" at £247.20 but I don't know if they are available. I note that the main terminal building at Charles de Gaulle airport is the same shape. It is known as the Camembert. Call me Moonraker. |
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WimvanSanten
Netherlands
30 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2017 : 08:07:28
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I do have one of those. From 1934. In perfect condition. Send you an email! Wim
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1949 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2017 : 15:18:22
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Hello alll.
I was at Sports and Vintage this morning and spoke with Mike Dowley. He said he doesn’t do the main bearing cheeses as they are a problem to cast !
Looks like we’ll be stuck.Does anyone have a pair of cheeses for a K / L or N type available?
Chris.
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2017 : 15:27:45
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| Andy king has done these as well |
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Gerhard Maier
Germany
864 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2017 : 19:05:02
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The bearing cheeses (K-L-N) which I measured had the sizes as in the picture below.
Gerhard
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cleydon
USA
212 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2017 : 21:42:01
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Gerhard,
Am I to understand from your photo submission that you have these for sale?
Best, Chris
PS: OD on P as well as on the rear L,K &N should be 5.093" |
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Gerhard Maier
Germany
864 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2017 : 10:39:49
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Originally posted by cleydon
Gerhard,
Am I to understand from your photo submission that you have these for sale?
Best, Chris
PS: OD on P as well as on the rear L,K &N should be 5.093"
Sorry Chris,
I took the photos and the measurements a long time ago, and both cheeses do their duty in the engine meanwhile.
So nothing for sale - - - on the contrary, I am looking for a pair myself.
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Hornet
United Kingdom
377 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2017 : 11:29:23
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when I needed a pair for a six I made a pair from steel and white metalled them direct and didn't use shells .
most machine shops could make these from solid bar and mill them .
when rebuilding a six I found the original ones were worn and loose , the new ones were made to fit the block as the block was also worn , when tightening the main bolts the old bearings there was room to get a 4 thou feeler gauge . Screwing up the bolts tight would probably cracked the block . |
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ANDY KING
United Kingdom
300 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2017 : 11:59:53
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Just to keep you all informed, a new batch of steel cheeses to both sizes have already commissioned.
Andy |
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1949 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2017 : 15:27:35
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Andy ,that sounds like good news , do we need to place an order for a pair for a six now?
Adrian, thanks for that,you make some good points.I had intended to make some but more pressing projects have caused delay on that front.Will probably opt for the ones from Andy now.
Regards,
Chris. |
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ANDY KING
United Kingdom
300 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2017 : 07:17:58
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Many thanks for your response and I have noted your interest. Will confirm completion date and price for all members in the near future on the traders forum.
Cheers
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cleydon
USA
212 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2017 : 17:31:43
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Andy, if you choose to make the cheeses in steel, may I make the following recommendations:
1. Be sensitive to the material which you choose. Some steels accept tinning in the babbitt process better than others.
2. The I.D. of the cheeses made for Phoenix cranks will be larger than for standard cranks.
3. When boring the finished ID, it is preferable to follow with a thread boring tool to produce a rough bore with a minimum threads per inch to enhance babbitt adherence.
From an engine builder,
Chris |
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LewPalmer
USA
3209 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2017 : 18:15:50
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There is currently an F-type cheese on ebay at the moment.
Lew Palmer
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