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John Brinkmann

USA
151 Posts

Posted - 18/09/2018 :  23:42:08  Show Profile

Might anyone know the identity of the woman in the circle?











KevinA

New Zealand
668 Posts

Posted - 19/09/2018 :  04:33:06  Show Profile
I'm not certain but suspect it is Freddie March's wife, Elizabeth Grace











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George Eagle

United Kingdom
3217 Posts

Posted - 19/09/2018 :  17:58:02  Show Profile
What lovely photos - I expect C type expert Cat might be able to identify the people and also the cars which I think are all C types.

The lady in the photos certainly bears a very similar likeness to the lady in the photos posted by Kevin.

George
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Edited by - George Eagle on 19/09/2018 18:00:31
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KevinA

New Zealand
668 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  08:44:30  Show Profile
Hi John

Why the original question?
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
5945 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  09:41:43  Show Profile
Ards, 1932. Left to right, probably C0257 driven by FS Barnes who took over Hamilton's number after his spectacular crash in practice; Jeffress, C0253; and Gardner, C0256.

Gardner on extreme right in dark jacket, possibly Oscar Pat(t)erson his co driver on the white overallsi

Cat?

Simon J
J3437

Edited by - Simon Johnston on 22/09/2018 09:44:39
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1940 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  11:55:11  Show Profile

Does anyone recognise the mechanic working on car No. 31 by any chance ?

Thank you,

Chris
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
5945 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  14:38:16  Show Profile
In this thread - http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=6903&SearchTerms=Oscar,Paterson - Cathelijne suggests the mechanic might be Bill Little.

Simon J
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1940 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  15:43:52  Show Profile

Thanks for that, Simon. I have found this picture of MG Works mechanics at the 1934 TT which includes ‘Jock’ Little ( 2nd from right) and appears to confirm your reply.

Chris



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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
5945 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  17:51:08  Show Profile
Looking again at the first picture John has posted that's Hamilton in the white overalls on the left within the circle John has drawn so this must be before the crash in practice so the car beside Hamilton would be C0279.

Simon J
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JohnE

United Kingdom
363 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  20:28:27  Show Profile
Now, wouldn't modern repros of those Sammy Davis designed overalls be a great idea. More sensible than white any day!

JohnE
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
5945 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2018 :  20:31:29  Show Profile
Great minds, etc. John. I was looking online this evening for brown overalls and they're not easy to find but I eventually came upon these ones - https://pksafetyuk.com/premium-boilersuit-brown - and ordered some!

Simon J
J3437
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John Brinkmann

USA
151 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2018 :  17:08:52  Show Profile
Kevin: I'm seeking the identity of Hamilton's fiancée, convinced that she is part of the reason for the black doll and perhaps Hamilton's burial in Bern.
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1940 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2018 :  21:18:07  Show Profile

So, Simon, all we require now is a source of suitable beige MG badges to go with the overalls !

Chris


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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
5945 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2018 :  21:52:38  Show Profile
Indeed, Chris, but they're proving to be somewhat elusive. Moss in the US do one but I think it's too small, plus it has a beige/cream edging which the one in the photo you posted doesn't seem to have. There is a local embroidery company here in Belfast who did our Ulster Centre Golden Jubilee MGCC badge for me who could easily do it I'm sure but inexplicably they don't have beige or cream thread! Go figure! More research needed.

Simon J
J3437

Edited by - Simon Johnston on 23/09/2018 21:53:24
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
5945 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2018 :  22:00:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by John Brinkmann

Kevin: I'm seeking the identity of Hamilton's fiancée, convinced that she is part of the reason for the black doll and perhaps Hamilton's burial in Bern.


John,

The chap who wrote the article about Hamilton which was in the 2016 Yearbook actually met Hamilton's mother and it was from her that he learned, for example, that the autopsy after his fatal crash showed that he had probably died of heart failure as a consequence of the injuries sustained in his Brno crash rather than from the impact of the crash at Berne. If he had had a fiancée I suspect that his mother would have mentioned that. Sadly, however, the author, Mike Wylie, died a couple of years ago so nothing further can be ascertained about what she may or may not have said.

Simon J
J3437
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John Brinkmann

USA
151 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2018 :  23:45:55  Show Profile
Hi Simon:

Mike and I discussed this topic a few times prior to his passing and you're right, Mike was unaware of Hamilton's fiancée. I was told of the relationship by Countess Moy, who met her and often referred to her as Hamilton's wife. I later found confirmation in the 1934 Automobil-Revue #71 account of Hamilton's funeral at Bern. There she is identified only as "the bride (Braut) of the deceased," noting that she was a good helper and companion and accompanied Hamilton to most of the season's events.

John.
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