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davies
United Kingdom
699 Posts |
 Posted - 08/02/2022 : 09:44:34
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| is anyone making these in this day and age? -Rich |
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Malcolm Eades
United Kingdom
379 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2022 : 10:18:31
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Check with Andy King. He bought Enrique Llinares' business when Enrique retired. See:
www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=11981
Malcolm
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Keith Durston
United Kingdom
698 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2022 : 11:01:44
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Rich, I think Gary Waiting has made these in the past.
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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
355 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2022 : 15:02:14
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| My ash frame was made 18 months ago by Stephen Sowerby , under the expert supervision of David Cooksey. I know he has made three more since then so should be well set up and he does a thoroughly good job . His works are between Swindon and Newbury in a village called Albourne. I have looked for contact details but can't find them , only his bank details ! He does advertise in the VSCC magazine . |
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Onno
Netherlands
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nigel stroud
United Kingdom
107 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2022 : 16:27:30
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I have drawings with patterns and an assembly jig if you fancy building your own  |
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Blue M
United Kingdom
1457 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2022 : 22:10:47
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| All those I've seen lately make the boot with a simple slope rather than the proper curve, and make the bottom and top rails of the doors parallel to each other whereas the top rail is meant to slope down slightly from front to back. They also make the top of the scuttle and bonnet horizontal - it's supposed to be a little higher at the back. You might be better off making your own. |
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Orstin
United Kingdom
633 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 08:51:11
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There was a book (published in the 70s maybe?) that purported to tell you how to make an M Type body. It contains all the faults that Ian describes and presumably is the root cause of all the many incorrect M type bodies that you see around. An M Type body is full of subtle curves that give it its distinctive lines.
So many dynamos |
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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
355 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 09:08:23
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| It's a damn good thing that David Cooksey supervised the construction of mine. 'Twas the first one that Steven Sowerby had done , so all subsequent ones will be correct . |
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Blue M
United Kingdom
1457 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 09:58:44
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| Fred, but why does he make them without removable floorboards? |
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Orstin
United Kingdom
633 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 11:50:25
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I didn't think you could take the floorboards out of an M Type? As I recall, the method of construction is to build off the floor boards and they are an integral part of the body....
So many dynamos |
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Onno
Netherlands
1027 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 12:29:26
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I think there is even a periode picture of M type bodies ready for fitting with floorboards fixed in place
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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
355 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 12:59:24
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| I understood that some M type owners modify the floorboards to make removal of the gearbox easier - but it's pretty easy anyway ! |
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Keith Durston
United Kingdom
698 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 16:06:43
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Guys,
I believe that the gearbox access panels either side were an original feature and are visible on the period photo of the bodies being delivered in crates to the factory. When I bought my replacement body from Ash Frames International many years ago (they claimed to have had an original body that they had copied exactly) it appeared to be correct but did have a one piece floor either side. I fitted the body after the engine and gearbox were in place and some years later I needed to remove the gearbox. I found that it was impossible to do this with the one piece floor and had to cut the access panels in situ or take the body off. My advice would be cut to them before you fit the body to the chassis. It is so much easier. There are many period photos buried in these archives with pictures of the original floor layout and surviving examples if you are interested. Sam Christie is probably the senior font of knowledge on this subject and helped me a lot when I need to get my gearbox out!
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Ian Grace
USA
651 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 16:08:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Orstin
There was a book (published in the 70s maybe?) that purported to tell you how to make an M Type body. It contains all the faults that Ian describes and presumably is the root cause of all the many incorrect M type bodies that you see around. An M Type body is full of subtle curves that give it its distinctive lines.
So many dynamos
Yes, And there was a large blueprint that looked original, but wasn't, which also contained the errors. I think a lot of restorers used it, thinking it was a factory drawing. I still have a copy somewhere.
For comparison, this is my Semi-sports Minor tail. Much heavier construction than the M, with complex twisting double curves timbers. Think yourself lucky! I've built four of these - they are sods to get exactly right. No opening boot lid but you can see the shelf in the tail for the spare, accessed by tilting the seat forward.
The finished tail:
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Blue M
United Kingdom
1457 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2022 : 17:42:53
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| I used to think the floor was one piece but I was very pleased to find out I was wrong. Removing a three speed box is bad enough but a four speed is almost impossible without removable front boards. |
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