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Dolts
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 08/03/2013 : 16:45:05
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You can find a bit more at www.limerickgrandprix.com, which confirms that Hutchinson won on his PB and a whole lot more besides. Presumably a handicap event but I can't find confirmation...
Graham
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Gordon
United Kingdom
694 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 18:28:49
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You might think that the car advertised is in the form that it was in to justify the advertising copy? In the race it was of course not supercharged and had a PA honeycomb rather than slats in the radiator! It looks to have a cowl with what looks like a modern laser cut MG motif on the front of the cowl. Have I got this correct?
Gordon
PB 0331, MG4473
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Gordon
United Kingdom
694 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 08:21:41
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This car seems to have had a varied appearance! The photo below shows the car to be a 4 sweater and in the Pathe clip shows no supercharger.
In this, http://106owners.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?200690-Today-Atspeed-15-7-11-a-legend, the car has been built as a ?Q type and this is 2011. It now has a Volumex blower and PB slats to the radiator.
Come 2013 the car now has a 2 seater body in the current advert!
Is this all the same car and when it was dismantled and put in boxes was the original body there when it was discovered and reassembled?
It would be great if the known history of the car today could be posted and any of my ideas above corrected or amplified as appropriate.
I would expect the car to develop 55 to 60 bop at the rear wheels in this form.
Gordon
PB 0331, MG4473
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graham holdsworth
United Kingdom
424 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 08:50:44
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Is it PB0648 ?
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1129 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 09:25:28
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Certainly been through a few changes, Although for that kind of money I d of thought it to be as period.
Regardless this chap must have been brave cracking around a street circuit in an in unblown 4 seat p type, with those other monsters hairing around him! Brilliant!!!
I might do some more digging on this race!
Mark Dolton
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Bob Stringfield
United Kingdom
854 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 09:38:37
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The registration numbers may hold a clue.
Most certainly a three pipe problem, Watson.
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
748 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 09:49:51
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Do I hear 'Yearbook article', Mark???
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1129 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 09:56:37
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Morning Cat, Well lets see what comes up first! I ve just pinged off a numer of emails whilst waiting for my daughters ballet to finish! the joy of internet!!!so lets see if there is some more history out there!
Here's a question for you forumists to ponder what would be the modern day equivalent of the race?
1936 MGPB 4 seat unblown vs GP bugatti's and ERA's
2013 ? Jensons Mclaren vs ?????
Scary thought!
Mark Dolton
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tholden
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/03/2013 : 09:58:39
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This car was for sale about 4/5 years ago but cannot remember who was offering it.
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graham holdsworth
United Kingdom
424 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 13:10:29
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I see from the '106 forum' that it was pale blue with c type body in 2011. Thus the incongrous blue rad slats ( green trim ), and yes it is PB0648 apparently. The register says ' originally 4 seater now J2 body'. So its had many changes. In my view, a shame when it has such a great histoy.
An aside, the vendor also has a fabulous Samson for sale, I'd love that in the barn next to my PB .
Mark I'm sure you know, but most voiturette races in the 30's were handicaps where the A7s and MGs mixed it with ERAs Bugs and Masers. ( read Prince Chula's great trio of books on Bira's racing )
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1129 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 13:42:07
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Hi graham, yeah the general principles were introduced to me since researching crystal palace but at CP they never had such varied fields and the handicap systems often didn't really work. just never fails to amaze me when I read these stories. Must have been something else! A 4 seat PB must have been an only just moving chicane!!!
Mark Dolton
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3301 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 14:31:06
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A couple of years ago I saw the PB 4 seater being advertised by Malcolm Elder as being the Grand Prix winning car. It was in a very poor state with the the rear spring tube/brackets crudely hack sawed off etc. It was accompanied with photos including the one shown below.
I do not think the car now advertised can be the same same car I saw. Is this a case of 2 cars claiming to have won the Grand Prix?
George
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graham holdsworth
United Kingdom
424 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 14:42:51
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Same car ?? Photo from 2011. Same front end as for sale photo.
Graham
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JMH
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/03/2013 : 15:24:37
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The light blue car also has a different reg. to the carandclassic car. There seems to be a lot going on here.....
It's been said before, but what we need is for a long-time P Type owner (with time on their hands)to sit down & tie everything together from chassis files to present day, sorting out all the mixing & matching etc. Neither of the reg. nos (165 YUH or 6 KPK) mean anything to me either.
We J Type owners have been well & truly spoilt!
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graham holdsworth
United Kingdom
424 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2013 : 15:28:36
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'Age Related' plate and then personal plate maybe ?, register shows Irish plate which makes sense.
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