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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 17/01/2021 : 10:36:12
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I doubt it, Teifion, the roads are too narrow. That’s really what did it for car racing in Ulster: there’s just no room to race safely. This is my personal Joey Dunlop favourite as I know the roads so can - sort of - imagine it all - https://youtu.be/9BZcSIHjuK4
P.S. As you watch this, just think that Mike Hawthorne lapped this circuit at 94.67 mph in a D type Jaguar in 1955! The current bike record is 134.61 mph set by Dean Harrison on a Kawasaki. Mad!
Simon J
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/01/2021 : 12:11:03
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I drove round the Dundrod Circuit during the wonderful MMM Tour of Ulster in 2016 in my PA. At a guess I think my average speed for the lap would have been in the region of 13.461 m.p.h. Mind you, I wasn't really trying very hard.
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Westbury
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/01/2021 : 12:56:37
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Really, Colin?
I thought last year you told me it was 13.462 !!!!!
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Vitesse
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 15:19:15
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Originally posted by Teifion
Anyone know a reason why the Mannin Beg couldn't be rerun?
Teifion
Well, in 1936 and 1937 it mutated into the RAC International Light Car Race, but it wasn't included on the 1938 calendar, probably because of the increasing importance and success of Donington Park and Crystal Palace and hopes that the Brooklands Campbell Circuit would improve its fortunes. Safety would also have been a factor - Jucker's fatal crash at Douglas in 1937, 'the Kaye Don affair', the spectator fatalities at Ards in 1936, which led to the TT moving to Donington - and despite the international billing it had proved difficult to attract foreign drivers - none apart from Lehoux in a works ERA in 1936 (although Kautz was a DNA) and just Villoresi and de Graffenried in 1937. There was certainly a desire to host top-class scratch racing, typified by the Donington GP and the abandonment of handicapping for the 1939 Nuffield Trophy. |
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
752 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 16:14:24
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Incredible what is the lap length? that seemed to show more than one lap, not knowing the roads it difficult to tell how many laps. What was Dunlop'slap time and at what average.
Colin your comment reminded me of one of my first skiing trips many years ago, we were quite novices and it took us to descend one slope in about 22 minutes, our instructor told us that the previous week it had been part of the French Championships and they had been descending that slope in about 22 seconds.
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Teifion
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/01/2021 : 17:38:56
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Thanks Colin, good to know, fingers crossed it carries on next year after 2 yrs off.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
5999 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 17:55:09
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John,
The lap length is about 7 1/2 miles and the video shows Joey Dunlop doing two full laps. He appears to be taking the first lap fairly gently (!) to warm up the tyres and then gives it the works in the second lap. The video dates from 1995 so the lap speeds were probably in the mid 120s (mph)
Simon J
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
752 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 20:48:30
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Thanks Simon, I thought there must have been more than one lap but wasn't 100% sure.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
5999 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 21:32:17
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John,
You can follow the action with this map, courtesy of The Ulster Grand Prix
Simon J
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1949 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2021 : 11:58:29
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Going back to Simon’s first post, another picture from the same spot in the same race.
This time George Eyston in his K3.
(Picture from Graeme Cocks’s brilliant book on K3s - The Mighty MG Magnettes of 33.
Chris
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mk1
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2021 : 09:06:58
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Adam & I have done the IOM Classic a couple of times, me in a MK1 Cooper S & Adam in his Austin 7. It's a great event, but sadly for H&S reasons they can't use any built up areas.
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