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George Eagle
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10/03/2021 : 09:47:09
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I received this picture via P Thelander.
The desirable JB 859 Registration number is not recorded in the Register. I think the car is a J2 and wonder if any of our trials historians can help identify the car?
It is thought the event might be the 6 days Scottish trial.
George
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John James
United Kingdom
960 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2021 : 10:16:31
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The car is J2416 supplied to R.A.MacDermid by Welch & Company, Bristol on 02/11/32. Extensive trials history.
Believed to have been exported to W.C.R. Automobiles, New York City and raced by Sam Collier 1934/35/36. |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3056 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2021 : 10:29:05
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Please forgive my ignorance, but why is the registration JB 859 desirable ?
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3228 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2021 : 12:35:39
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Thanks for the information John.
The reason the Registration did not show up was because there was a typing error - now corrected thanks to Dick.
Sadly J2416 does not appear to have survived. The other two cars shown in the trial were YY4 - J2714 - and FS 5757 - J2048 - both of which survive.
I mentioned the JB number as being desirable because this series was used by the MG Car company when registering their various competition cars used in trials and racing.
George
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2495 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2021 : 15:33:05
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It is strange that you can look at something and not see it. It is only now after John's reply that I have noticed the caption across the top of the photo. I guess it has to have been there all the time!
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Ralph
United Kingdom
72 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2021 : 19:09:12
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It’s surprising that MG J2 Reg No JB 659 also a works MG does survive
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1711 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2021 : 03:45:58
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It seems the Company possibly taxed cars in batches.
RX9979 was an M, 9980 the first J2 and 9981 the works demo f3 (F1 to 3 spec)
JB658 was the first F2 and 659 the first J3. Are there any others in this group?
JB854 was the works demo K1, 855 the 18/80, 6, 7 and 8 I don't know about, and then we reach JB859. were they actually "batches"? all taxed on the same day? And if so is there any significant in it?
Midnight ramblings!
P
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
5999 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2021 : 06:56:06
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Just for the record, JB 659 was NOT the first J3; it was J2024 and described by Abingdon as the prototype J3. It was also described as “A standard supercharged J3 Midget” in the well known advertisement celebrating Victor Ferguson's success at Ballybannon in it, but it was in fact a J2.
Simon J
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 11/03/2021 06:57:28 |
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3228 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2021 : 10:22:43
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Pete Thelander has reminded me the Collier Brothers were the subject of an article by Peter Ross in the 2014 Yearbook. Included is a photo of the ex-Macdermid J2, now painted black, on its last journey on record to Memphis in May 1936.
The car was left or sold in Tennessee.
George
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nick westbrook
United Kingdom
20 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2021 : 16:30:05
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Hi
Nice thread on early JB numbers. My car (JB 877) was registered By Adrian Squire as his demonstrator. His showrooms were in Henley and JB is an Oxfordshire plate. When I researched the records at Oxford Library I noticed that he had pre-booked the number in early September 1932 (I have always suspected he wanted as many luck 7's as possible?). The famous Squire 'skimpy' is JB 8776!
Those of you who have read Jonathan Woods excellent book on Squire will know that prior to him building his own cars he worked for MG in the Design Office. Jock Mamby-Colegrave was a director of Squire Motors who ram his K3 for him. The records suggest that my car remained at his showroom until March 1933. I've never been able to unearth the early history but assume it was sold to one of their wealthy friends. If anyone has any knowledge please let me know.
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bob
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2021 : 17:15:32
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| The wheels on the green car seem different? |
Edited by - bob on 11/03/2021 17:15:58 |
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george
United Kingdom
862 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2021 : 17:19:50
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| 16x 550 ? geoff |
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nick westbrook
United Kingdom
20 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2021 : 10:16:40
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This is another great action picture with an early JB plate. Does this car survive I wonder?
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
5999 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2021 : 11:30:10
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That’s J2005, an M.G. demonstrator car which was sold to a K.K. Smith in April 1934. The picture was apparently taken at the Gloucester Trial in 1932 when the car was driven by A.C. Hess. The car is not known to have survived.
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 12/03/2021 11:35:06 |
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Ray Masters
United Kingdom
563 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2021 : 12:31:36
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| The roadside marker is headed N W L M C . Which motor club is that ? |
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