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Tim Phelps

United Kingdom
166 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2022 :  10:30:55  Show Profile
I was watching Question Time on the BBC last evening to hear that an academic has been successful in leading a campaign to convince Marks and Spencer to change the name of century-old Midget Gems brand of sweets to Mini Gems as the term “midget” can be deemed offensive to vertically challenged people. Apparently a throwback to circuses of old.

Hopefully the smallest model of our beloved Triple-Ms won’t come under similar pressure......

Good grief!
Tim

DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3672 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2022 :  10:35:05  Show Profile
Yes indeed, as the owner of a vertically challenged PA I had wondered about that, too!

Dick Morbey, Register Secretary
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
secretary@triple-mregister.org
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coracle

United Kingdom
1872 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2022 :  11:42:39  Show Profile
Perhaps vertically diverse would be more appropriate?

I wondered if the post: https://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20666 might have raised comment.
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Robin Macmillan

United Kingdom
415 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2022 :  11:48:25  Show Profile
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/midget-gems-marks-and-spencer-cancel-b976456.html This link provides more detail and having seen the twitter comments within I fully understand the desire of the academic to seek a change in name …at least for the sweets.

We already have minis and minors !


PB 0527
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1949 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2022 :  16:07:18  Show Profile
It’s about time we ignored these idiots!
Chris
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Centric

United Kingdom
139 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2022 :  22:42:37  Show Profile
I do
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Robin Macmillan

United Kingdom
415 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2022 :  00:16:09  Show Profile
People with whom we disagree are not inevitably idiots

PB 0527
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1949 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2022 :  07:37:40  Show Profile
Thanks, Robin.
Unfortunately, in this case I have to disagree. It is part of a never ending attack on our language and culture.
Are we to henceforth change MMM - Midget/ Magna/Magnette to MMM- Mini/ Magna/Magnette? I think not, however, we may be FORCED to change by law if these idiots get their way simply because a tiny minority object to the word ‘midget’ .
Chris
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houndhome

United Kingdom
17 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2022 :  08:44:15  Show Profile
I think that I would complain about "Migdet",but possibly not "Midget" !!
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Oz34

United Kingdom
2495 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2022 :  10:35:10  Show Profile
Unfortunately Chris in the 21st century that seems to be the way of the world and we dinosaurs are being squeezed out. History, fact or not, must be re-written if you don't like it, as in the Soviet Union and possibly a more recent Russia.

Dave
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1949 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2022 :  12:15:43  Show Profile
‘All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.’
Chris
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Teifion

United Kingdom
135 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2022 :  23:18:40  Show Profile
Fubar..

Teifion
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Ktype

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 17/01/2022 :  19:34:23  Show Profile


This was initiated by Erin Pritchard lecturer in Disability Studies at Liverpool Hope University who said:

"As someone with dwarfism I know that renaming Midget Gems is not ‘woke’ – it’s long overdue"

She is I think right and, in the alternative, even if I think she is wrong I defer to her as she has dwarfism and I do not. Progress has trade offs and this is to me an accpetable one.

If anyone feels this is offensive to their values they could try synthesising how someone with real cause for finding offence would feel about this.

MG today would today not name a car a Midget.

Paul






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PeterL

United Kingdom
1711 Posts

Posted - 17/01/2022 :  21:31:48  Show Profile
Midget submarines?
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Keith Durston

United Kingdom
698 Posts

Posted - 17/01/2022 :  22:32:10  Show Profile
I feel very sad that Erin Pritchard feels offended by the word midget which I understand the dictionary says has two meanings "a person of extremely or exceptionally small stature" or "something that is very small". If Erin genuinely feels that way surely it can only be if somebody is using the word offensively which is something that none of us could condone.
As the long term owner of one of MG's first Midgets I feel saddened that there should be any effort to try and change the meaning of the word which has served us well for years without a hint of offense.
Keith
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Colin Butchers

United Kingdom
1481 Posts

Posted - 18/01/2022 :  10:31:46  Show Profile
Well said, Keith. I am with you entirely.

Colin B. (Proud owner of an M.G. P Type Midget)
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