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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03/04/2017 : 06:53:10
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In view of the lack of stock of these items, I decided to make my own of these replacement headlamp brackets. I have a copy of an invoice from MG that this was a later upgrade and was fitted for free originally. Can anyone advise why there are the four smaller holes, two on each bracket either side and to the front of the main lamp hole ? The lamp brackets are off J4129 as evidenced by a small amount of green paint. Maybe for a competition number board, or to move the number plate higher ? Any help would be appreciated, Thankyou.
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mgmog
United Kingdom
463 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2017 : 08:45:34
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| Super job Chris, could the holes be used for mounting horns? |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6010 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2017 : 09:05:44
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Chris
These brackets were to relocate the headlamps to prevent road spray hitting the driver and were not needed after J3331 when a new headlamp mounting and wing stay was introduced. This was superseded from J3591 which apparently moved the lamps outwards once more as, with the swept wings, they didn't need to be moved inwards. Of course if your swept wing car had been fitted with cycle wings these brackets would have been needed but otherwise it seems unlikely they come from it
Simon J
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1962 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2017 : 09:55:50
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I like the use of a period 1938 shilling for scaling purposes!
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1962 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2017 : 10:00:23
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Or should that read scribing?
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tholden
United Kingdom
1627 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2017 : 11:35:42
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Chris I made a batch of these headlamp brackets some years ago copied from originals. The two holes you mention are not original to the bracket and have been drilled later for a badge or similar. There should also be a step in the bracket equal to the thickness of the lug in the wing stay bracket. You can see this in your original one. Without this the brackets will not line up correctly when you put the bar through.
There is a works information sheet regarding these brackets let me know if you want a copy.
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
1045 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2017 : 13:01:40
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Thanks for your informed replies, I was not aware that the four front holes were not original, and also Simon for advising that this is in fact off J2353 and the not the later car.
So looks like badges or horns were added. If you get to make any more Terry or Rich I would be a willing customer for a set. I will use these in the interim, I have altered the profile on my hand made ones to allow for the step.
The shilling is for scribing the rounded end, I like to keep ' period ' cash in my cars for effect.
Thanks.
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Edited by - MG Maverick on 03/04/2017 13:06:39 |
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mgtommm
USA
498 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2017 : 20:36:48
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Below is a shot of an original bracket in front of the type Simon mentions started at J3331. Grey wing stay is J3356. Simon's and mine are consecutive numbers - J3436 and J3437.
Part number can be seen on the drawing. tommm
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Richard Hardy
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2017 : 23:25:46
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Terry is correct . There must be a crank on the arm as otherwise your brackets will not work. I do have the tooling to make these but life is too short !
Like quite a bit information in Octagon Haven, the diagrams and info is not always strictly correct
Regards
Rich
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
1045 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2017 : 07:29:45
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I had put the crank in already, everything lines up perfectly, thanks for the advice. ( photo ).
I am sure now that the four extra holes were for the number plate, moved to the higher position. J2353 probably was the supercharged one of the two, so seems sensible to fix the numberplate higher, above the cowling.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2017 : 07:57:31
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Originally posted by Richard Hardy
Like quite a bit information in Octagon Haven [sic], the diagrams and info is not always strictly correct.
In this case I think good ol' George Jarrard got it right as the drawing is simply a reproduction of the factory Information Sheet.
Simon J
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