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Ian lawrence
New Zealand
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 Posted - 28/03/2018 : 23:59:30
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For those who may be interested look up "Trade Me " NZ number " item no-1499484779. It is in average condition not running but most of it is there?
First registered in NZ 10 /10/1938. PA 2007 Engine AP 2300 originally. On 13/05/57 another engine was put in AP 1584. and both engine No's shown on the duplicate ownership papers.
It has also stamped below the AP 1587 on the replacement block these numbers 1351? All this info is on the site
Cheers Ian.
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Nick Feakes
USA
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3672 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2018 : 13:27:09
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Hi Ian
The engine that was originally in your car (1537AP) has clearly found its way into PA2007, which is the car now being offered for sale.
The Register's suggestion is that the replacement engine now in your car should be subtly re-numbered by adding /2 after the present number that it bears. (Details below)
I don't think we have an image of your engine on the database - could you perhaps e-mail a pic to me? Thanks!
As regards the present stamping on PA2007's block, the 135 denotes a single breather PA engine and the '1' is in fact the letter 'P'!
Back to PA2007:
Engine number 1584AP (the engine that is reported to have been installed in 1957) derived from PA1321 which is listed as now living in the USA - and with that engine number shown as 'current' - which seems likely to be incorrect.
Oddly (and more likely to be correct) the engine is recorded as now being installed in PA1378 which resides in Wiltshire!
Does anyone know any more details about PA2007? It's not currently listed on the Register and we know nothing of its past or recent history, other than the fact it started life as a 2-seater sports in March 1936 with a Shropshire owner and was black with red trim!
In case it helps you and others, here are the Register's guidelines relating to replacement engines and blocks:
6. REPLACEMENT ENGINES AND CYLINDER BLOCKS
For various reasons it may become necessary:
- to replace a car's original engine with another unit derived from another Triple-M car.
- to substitute an original cylinder block with a newly-manufactured replacement block.
Whenever these changes occur, the Register asks owners to ensure that details of the change are notified to the Registrar.
It is the Register's policy that whenever a newly-manufactured cylinder block is utilised, it should be stamped with an identifying number followed by the suffix "/2". The identifying number should be one that that is appropriate to that particular vehicle. If the new block is of the same type as that of the engine originally installed in that car at the time of manufacture, it will be in order to use the original engine's number. Alternatively if the new block replaces an engine that was not original to that car, it is permissible to use the number of the engine that is being replaced, in each case adding the suffix "/2" previously mentioned. The Registrar should be consulted in case of any uncertainty.
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK |
Edited by - DickMorbey on 29/03/2018 13:36:36 |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3672 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2018 : 13:50:05
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Ian, As a matter of interest where did you get the info that engine #1584AP was installed in 13/5/1957? I ask because according to the sale papers with PA2007 a Duplicate Cert of Registration of the car with the NZ authorities - and with a typed date stamp dated 10/10/1938 the engine number was changed to 1587AP although, coonfusingly, the date 15.3.57 is also typed on the form! - 1587AP is the engine number that is recorded in a current picture of the car in the TradeMe advert!
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK |
Edited by - DickMorbey on 29/03/2018 13:55:03 |
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Ian lawrence
New Zealand
105 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2018 : 22:17:06
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hello Dick.
All of the dates and numbers are on the trade me site. The Site number is 1582328450. If you scroll through the photos on the site about the last shot shows the Duplicate ownership papers obtaining all of the dates, numbers etc from this shot
This not my car I only put it up as a point of interest to all.
Hope this helps cheers Ian On a sunny Easter Saturday
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Ian lawrence
New Zealand
105 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2018 : 22:36:31
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Nick Hi
I have just checked the numbers on the trade me site and confirm it is 1582328450. Suggest you just look up " Trade Me" NZ ,Click on browse, THEN Cars for sale, then go more makes at bottom right. Then scroll down MG column and you will find the PA?
All information and photos are under this number>
Hope this is OK cheers on Easter Saturday Ian
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3056 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2018 : 22:38:38
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3672 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2018 : 19:14:56
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The car did not sell at the TradeMe auction.
Have tried to reach Rod Brayshaw and Ian Lawrence about the car just now, but both e-mails have bounced! Are you there, guys?
The seller (Jeremy) is coming to MG Live! in June so maybe we'll meet.....
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
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NZ_monty
New Zealand
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Posted - 09/04/2018 : 22:51:31
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Hi Dick,
I've just popped a note to Geoff Broadhead here in NZ about this, he runs a local MMM register and he and I have discussed the car. He will also have a current email address Rod and likely Ian too.
Cheers,
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rodb
New Zealand
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Posted - 10/04/2018 : 00:45:21
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Dick,
My email is working as on the forum member details page
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