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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6000 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2020 :  06:39:15  Show Profile
I thought this topic would have been locked, but clearly not, so I’m adding this photo just to close out the query on page 2 of the thread about who was driving the M Type at Craigantlet.

As the photo below shows, the car was entered by R.G. Heyn and driven by Billy Sullivan but the date of the newspaper from which to comes is 1929, not 1932 as was suggested above.





Simon J

J3437

Simon
I have deleted that reply and moved it to General Information 19OCT2020.
Nick
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Blue M

United Kingdom
1459 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2020 :  07:23:08  Show Profile
Simon, is this the same Billy Sullivan that built and raced in the TT special Morris Minors a couple of years later?
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6000 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2020 :  08:44:04  Show Profile
Indeed it is, Ian. There’s an interesting tale to tell about Billy but it’s proving slow going to get much information about him.

Simon J
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Mike Allison

United Kingdom
196 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2020 :  16:07:46  Show Profile
Surely 084XI is a trade plate number? I am not familiar with the Ulster series, but the plate looks similar to those used here on the mainland, where they are usually red, rather than black.
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6000 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2020 :  16:44:34  Show Profile
Yes, Mike, it’s a trade plate. This was established right at the outset of this topic. The plates on the Ferguson car have white numbers on a red background and so were General plates that could be used for just about any purpose. The other type of trade plate in those days were Limited plates which were red numbers on a white background. They were much more restricted in use (and cost a lot less than General plates) and when using them the driver had to carry a form stating the reason for the journey, estimated starting and finishing times, the driver's name and the driver had to be an employee of the firm that owned the plate.

Simon J
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Mike the M

United Kingdom
481 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2020 :  20:31:09  Show Profile
Who was R. G. Heyn, I cannot find him on Ancestry!!

Mike Dalby
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6000 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2020 :  21:16:59  Show Profile
A local Norn Iron motoring enthusiast.

Simon J
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6000 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2023 :  10:19:11  Show Profile
I had expected that this ten-year old thread would have been locked but since it isn’t I’m adding to it to report that J2024/JB 659 has finally surfaced again and is in good hands here in Norn Iron.






The factory records show that the car was always referred to internally as a J3, despite having a J2 chassis number, and it was not returned to J2 spec by the factory as suggested above but was sold as a J3 in January 1934 to its first owner.

A truly important car and we can expect to see it back on the road, hopefully to full J3 spec, in the not too distant future.

Simon J
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colintf

United Kingdom
1484 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2023 :  15:24:09  Show Profile
That’s great news Simon :)

Colin Murrell
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Photographer for MGCC (LeMans Classic, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc) & MG Motor (BTCC 2012-5)

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Nick Feakes

USA
3340 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2023 :  22:09:21  Show Profile
Simon
These threads do not become locked as I do not archive this forum for the very reason that is evident above. New information comes to light about a picture of a car or of an event years after the original topic was created and adds to the sum of all knowledge. I for one, thoroughly enjoy reading these voyages of discovery.
Nick

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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6000 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2023 :  23:04:53  Show Profile
Thanks, Nick. That seems to be very sensible.

Simon J
J3437
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Ralph

United Kingdom
72 Posts

Posted - 19/12/2023 :  09:26:47  Show Profile
Isn’t that JB659 (the prototype J3 )
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6000 Posts

Posted - 19/12/2023 :  10:07:38  Show Profile
Er, yes, that’s what I said - J2024/ JB 659 - and what the photo shows!

Simon J
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