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colintf

United Kingdom
1489 Posts

Posted - 15/08/2022 :  20:45:18  Show Profile
I've just stumbled upon the attached photograph (on Facebook) of the three PAs before setting sail for LeMans 24 hours in 1935. Where can I read more details of their exploits please? Where did they sail from (the back of my mind says Fowey or Charlestown down in Cornwall, but I could be way off the mark there!!) where did they sail to, and what route did they take? Where did they stay leading up to the 24 hour race?
Lot's of questions sorry.






Colin Murrell
PA0786 (D0285 previously)
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Edited by - colintf on 15/08/2022 20:45:50

LewPalmer

USA
3221 Posts

Posted - 15/08/2022 :  23:16:07  Show Profile
I have quite a bit of info on this team and the cars, but here's a start. https://revsinstitute.org/news/mgs-dancing-daughters/
The Revs Institute houses the Miles Collier collection which includes one of the cars (which was rebodied after a traffic accident in New York many years ago). A second of the cars was in New York state until a few years ago until the owner sold it to an enthusiast in Germany. The third hasn't be heard from in a number of years.

And more.. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2015/07/08/speed-beauty-and-style-the-eystons-dancing-daughters-mg-pa-le-mans-racer

Google "Dancing Daughters MG" and you will spend the day reading all that results.

Lew Palmer
PA1169, NA0651

Edited by - LewPalmer on 15/08/2022 23:20:11
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colintf

United Kingdom
1489 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  05:19:14  Show Profile
Many thanks Lew :)

Colin Murrell
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6023 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  09:34:04  Show Profile
There’s an article on the Le Mans P Types by Malcolm Green in the 2004 Yearbook

Simon J
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colintf

United Kingdom
1489 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  11:24:35  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Simon Johnston

There’s an article on the Le Mans P Types by Malcolm Green in the 2004 Yearbook

Simon J
J3437



thanks Simon, i'll have to dig my copy out again

Colin Murrell
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Ray Masters

United Kingdom
563 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  11:59:44  Show Profile
Answers to the questions asked by Colin viz. where did they sail from/to , which route did they take , where did they stay etc could be the foundation of a commerative tour in 2025 , 90th anniversary of their entry , by Triple M cars , I would suggest.
I was part of a similar tour and visit to Le Mans in 2009 to commerate the entry of Ted Lund in his Twin Cam MGA. He drove there three years in succession. We visited two chateaux that he and his team stayed in , even meeting the , then , 60 + year old family member who had been a 10 year old boy at the time . His over 90 year old mother who remembered the occasion in 1959 was still in the chateau but not well enough to meet us all . It was also the 50th anniversary of my wife and I driving to Le Mans in Ted’s old PB special in 1959 hoping to meet up with him , which we never did . Article in 1990 Yearbook for some details .
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colintf

United Kingdom
1489 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  12:36:49  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Ray Masters

Answers to the questions asked by Colin viz. where did they sail from/to , which route did they take , where did they stay etc could be the foundation of a commerative tour in 2025 , 90th anniversary of their entry , by Triple M cars , I would suggest.
I was part of a similar tour and visit to Le Mans in 2009 to commerate the entry of Ted Lund in his Twin Cam MGA. He drove there three years in succession. We visited two chateaux that he and his team stayed in , even meeting the , then , 60 + year old family member who had been a 10 year old boy at the time . His over 90 year old mother who remembered the occasion in 1959 was still in the chateau but not well enough to meet us all . It was also the 50th anniversary of my wife and I driving to Le Mans in Ted’s old PB special in 1959 hoping to meet up with him , which we never did . Article in 1990 Yearbook for some details .



indeed 2025 being the 90th Anny of their escapades has raised my curiosity regarding the when / where / how type questions Ray


Colin Murrell
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1971 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  17:39:24  Show Profile
Does anyone know what headlamps were used on the Le Mans P types as illustrated in Colin’s picture above?
Thanks,
Chris
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Keith Nelson

United Kingdom
82 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  20:45:17  Show Profile
Hi Chris
The section in "Maintaining the Breed" covering the preparation of these cars implies standard lamps just fitted with stone guards (Le Mans style of course)
Regards
Keith

ON
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1971 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2022 :  23:35:51  Show Profile
Many thanks, Keith.
Chris
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Gerhard Maier

Germany
868 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2022 :  10:56:38  Show Profile
Chris
in all the photos I found, the Le Mans P-types had black headlights.
Except on the picture below, and I can't tell who inserted the text on this photo.
Gerhard


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Gerhard Maier

Germany
868 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2022 :  11:16:30  Show Profile
Sorry Chris,
I just notice, that the Dancing Daughters had the staring No's 55-56-57,
so the No.54 in my last post, obviously started at a different occasion.
Gerhard
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JohnE

United Kingdom
369 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2022 :  12:51:56  Show Profile
It is sometimes hard to know when LeMans regulations came and went because cars may not have been prepared just for that year. Certainly the black frames were important in 1930 with 18watt headlamps on the two M's entered, although I think this pic is actually from Spa.





JohnE
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Westbury

United Kingdom
1971 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2022 :  17:26:05  Show Profile
Thanks very much, Gerhard and John for your information.
Chris
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