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paul55
Luxembourg
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 Posted - 26/01/2018 : 13:51:44
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Thanks to everyone for the helpful advise. Sorry for the delay but have been on holiday for a couple of weeks with no internet access.
As Chris wrote directly above, the only reason for my original post was to see if my block was still around and how it got to where it is, in other words who hands it passed through. I am 100% sure that the company who I gave it to know exactly who they gave/sold it to, someone knows more than they are saying. I never thought of the Small Claims Court, but after the above post am considering it. Might try a mail to the company in question mentioning that I am thinking of doing this, but what's the value of a genuine K block that's all stamped up clearly, anyone any idea's. Does the £3K that John mentions above seem reasonable?
Thanks,
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ja.mcnab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 15:11:33
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I would pitch the claim as high as possible - small claims court handles up to £10,000.
Andy King might tell you what he would charge for one - if he had one ! |
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paul55
Luxembourg
728 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2018 : 15:33:45
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Thanks Allan, I saw Andy King just the other day and he did give me an approximate value, but I wanted a general consensus from other club members. I want to be realistic and not to appear too greedy with the value. I must say though I thought that it did have a small crack, this is why it went away, does this affect the value? I guess not too much as it's disappeared!
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Ian Bowers
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 16:07:22
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You may well be going into a round of negotiating, by setting out your stall in your claim. So state all and only the positives, it is for the other side to make their case, don't make it for them! It would help to find a recent purchase/sale of a similar engine block to establish a value. Can anyone help?
As my Father regularly said 'if you don't try, the answer is no'. Nothing to lose then!
Ian Bowers
OD 6791
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Westbury
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 16:26:22
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Perhaps I am taking a harder line than most here but a genuine ‘K’ type block like this one must carry a premium, certainly worth far more than a new one.
Personally, I would not be happy until I got my original block back. At the end of the day, Paul, regardless of whoever now has this block or the circumstances by which that person obtained it, it is still, in law, your property.
I still think there is a strong possibility that someone reading this knows something about the block’s whereabouts.
Don’t back down, Paul !
Regards,
Chris.
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sullivan
USA
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 16:52:54
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So the case can be made that this specialist has Stolen and trafficked in stolen goods. I would suspect this to be much more serious than simply selling a item that he thought was forgotten and now he is unable to provide whereabouts to. Has a report been made to the police? Perhaps by ramping up the pressure you will find the location of your block. At moment I suspect he hopes you will just go away disappointed and he will continue to profit from your loss.
Put pressure on him!
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paul55
Luxembourg
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 16:59:05
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Never thought of contacting the Police either, thanks Brian! I could use this angle as an added lever. Once I get a consensus on the value, I will send them a mail outlining what I propose to do, unless they want to settle before it gets that far. Not too sure though how much attention the UK police would give a matter such as this, but it's worth a try.
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sullivan
USA
423 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2018 : 18:14:15
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I am aware of a High quality early 1960's rebuilt VW bus that was sold at auction and was in a shipping container in Los Angeles ready to go to Europe. The numbers were checked by customs on the engine etc. & The Bus turned out to have been pinched back in 1970's as old police report showed from Seattle area. The Van was a wreck when stolen but now was in concourse condition the whole was then deemed to be returned to the original owner in Seattle. There tuned out to have been a insurance company who had reimbursed the owner back in 1970's and was then determined the property of that company and returned to them. This set off a cascade of law suits...
This same scenario is likely for any who knowingly handle such a stolen block. If anyone knows the whereabouts of this block it is better to come clean now than to be found out latter having put parts, labor etc. into it. Please contact Paul with the details...
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Westbury
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 18:18:49
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Please excuse my further comments. I wouldn’t at this stage make any comment about the estimated value of this block, it is offering the company an opportunity to duck out of their responsibilities to you, Paul. Insist on demanding the return of YOUR property and nothing else.
I doubt if the police would want to get involved in this case,(Forgive my cynicism !) certainly at this stage.
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Ian Bowers
United Kingdom
937 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2018 : 19:30:24
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A value is needed to make a Small Claims Court case, if/when you go down that route.
Ian Bowers
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paul55
Luxembourg
728 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2018 : 19:34:12
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Brian, Chris, thank's for your continued support and advise, don't worry how many post's you make, they all help.
Chris, I do think that you have a point by asking for my original block to be returned, then take it from there depending on the response.
I doubt that it will appear though, so still could do with some estimated values. I have had a direct mail that says it's worth around £10K, is that excessive for an original block? I think that a repro new one retails close to +/- £2.5K including VAT. Could do with having an idea.
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sullivan
USA
423 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2018 : 01:40:05
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Paul I would file a stolen property report. You need to get your loss on the official record. This way no one can sell it or do anything with it without risking discovery. I would contact my insurance company and let them know what happened as well. Also if you have the rest of the bits, IE the complete engine I would look to see what a complete engine value is as you have in essence nothing without the block. This would raise the value considerably I would guess.
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Richard Hardy
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 10:06:36
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Paul, for my daytime professional job, I deal with dispute resolution, tribunal and County Court representational work. If I were in your position, I would place the company on formal notice. I would also issue a Calderbank Offer which would give you the ability to pursue the other party for recovery of your costs in addition to the value of the block. The other side would then be wise to take legal advice and reappraise their position, knowing they could potentially be hit for an award on costs which could be considerably in excess of the value of the block. Do they wish to face this prospect. I suspect not and I would hope your block would quickly re-appear or they promptly agree an appropriate settlement figure with you. Happy to speak with you on the phone
Richard
Vintage MG Parts |
Edited by - Richard Hardy on 27/01/2018 10:09:43 |
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davies
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 10:50:09
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| Paul, rather than just mailing the Company advising them of your intentions you should issue them with a formal "LETTER OF INTENT". This is a must prior to initiating a claim thru' the courts. - Rich |
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Richard Hardy
United Kingdom
2143 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2018 : 12:06:21
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Absolutely, I agree
Richard
Vintage MG Parts |
Edited by - Richard Hardy on 27/01/2018 12:07:03 |
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