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TCTom
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 Posted - 25/12/2017 : 12:50:01
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Merry Christmas everyone!
Here's a photo you're all likely familiar with, but in much higher resolution. Lots of details can be seen here - want to point out some of them?
Tom Wilson
caretaker of lots of MGs . .
in a snowy, chilly Zionsville Indiana USA
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sam christie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/12/2017 : 12:36:52
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Thanks for sharing this interesting picture. I wish there were many more like this and available to all.
I am not familiar with the oval shapes in the fabric. Can anyone say what they are?
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/12/2017 : 13:33:14
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The photo would have been taken sometime after mid September 1933 as that was when the revised, lower petrol pump location was introduced with the simpler pipe from it to the carbs which cost 1s 5d compared to the 5s 4d of the curly pipe which preceded it. The feed pipe to the pump now goes under the radiator stay and not over it.
Note also the later windscreen with electric wiper and the external rear view mirror instead of the one mounted on the horn button. These were introduced in July 1933.
Of course the brake drums are still painted black - perhaps the paint was removed from the alloy fins further down the line 
Note also the white, or at least light coloured, spider springs on the shock absorbers.
Simon J
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F0355
South Africa
298 Posts |
Posted - 26/12/2017 : 14:10:40
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Some quick observations:
Radiator support stays unpainted....learnt something 
Body wings all just stacked one ontop of the other with little evidence of any protection to prevent scuffing etc.
Radiator surround - assuming one type is J2, for which vehicle is the other for?
Peter
Johannesburg, RSA
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Drolshagen
Germany
662 Posts |
Posted - 26/12/2017 : 14:37:06
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Hi Peter,
it is a L2 radiator,J2 and L2 produced on the same assembling
line at the same time,
Carl
J2 4362
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2495 Posts |
Posted - 26/12/2017 : 14:48:03
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The rad you ask about Peter would be for an F or L. This is presumably an earlier photo as both the Js & the L1 behind have Petrolift pumps.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3056 Posts |
Posted - 26/12/2017 : 17:56:13
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I notice the bonnets look unpainted. I guess once fitted they were numbered numbered and marked for colour before going off to be painted.
Perhaps the guards were fitted unpainted and then tagged and removed for painting too?
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John Brinkmann
USA
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3056 Posts |
Posted - 26/12/2017 : 19:04:38
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At least they are not smoking.
Sam |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
5999 Posts |
Posted - 26/12/2017 : 19:19:56
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The photo that Dave has posted shows a few points that have been mentioned before - the plain rubber tubing on the brake cables, the black brake drums (see comment above about the alloy fins ), the painted gearboxes (they look to be black rather than red but hard to be sure given that it may well have been orthochromatic film), the curious lack of draft excluders on the steering column and the felt (?) anti-rattle strips on the front chassis rails which are also visible in the photo Tom posted.
The photo below, while not of the production line, shows how poor quality the seat coverings were - look at those wrinkles! I doubt anyone would accept seats like that today!
Simon J
J3437
P.S. They are seats, aren’t they, or are they items wrapped up in something?
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2495 Posts |
Posted - 27/12/2017 : 00:13:54
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And there was I at first Simon, thinking you meant that little bit of rubber in the driver's position on the L chassis! It looks like the rubber floor mats recently discussed.
Another much discussed point finally I think laid to rest in your photo by the swept wing rear view; on two-tone cars, the tank is body colour and so almost certainly is the bonnet top.
The rubber tubing to which you refer is I guess that between the cable end stop and the operating lever? In the handbooks this is always shown as plain.
Dave
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/12/2017 : 08:52:11
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Good morning, Dave,
It's a duo-tone J2 behind - note the lack of dash lamps and the electric wiper motor to left hand side.
Oddly enough the rubber cover on the brake cables is not shown in the J2 manual - the photo is labelled 'Rubber cover not shown, but I see it is indeed shown as plain tubing in the P Type manual.
All good stuff, eh?
Simon J
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 27/12/2017 08:54:03 |
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JMH
United Kingdom
910 Posts |
Posted - 27/12/2017 : 09:43:12
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| I would have been yelled at for leaving the bonnet resting on its hinge like that...#128561; |
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/12/2017 : 15:34:02
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quote:
Originally posted by sam christie
Thanks for sharing this interesting picture. I wish there were many more like this and available to all.
I am not familiar with the oval shapes in the fabric. Can anyone say what they are?
Sam
Didn't some cars have rear windows in the hoods like that? Not unlike the oval windows in the roof of an Airline.
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whirlwind
New Zealand
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Posted - 27/12/2017 : 20:25:07
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to me it looks like the dash panel with octagon panel around the gauges & the panel is resting on the tonneau cover flap that clips over the door opening.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
5999 Posts |
Posted - 27/12/2017 : 22:04:08
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A slightly less pixelated photo than Sam's. I don't think it is a dashboard which would show up as aluminium.
Simon J
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J2 Production - the Body Track
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