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mgva
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 Posted - 12/07/2023 : 20:10:12
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Thanks Ray
Brian passed three years ago. This is Brian"s PA that I have. I am trying to fill in more of Brian's details. I would like to do some writing about the car and Brian
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1965 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2023 : 22:13:59
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Hello, Colin.
Thanks for your information and pointing out the picture of Dennis’s was Mill Lane.
Could you confirm that Mill Lane and Nailsworth were two entirely different venues?
Obviously, I need to do more research on the subject!
Regards,
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Ray White
United Kingdom
42 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2023 : 22:46:47
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Sorry Dennis, I didn't know.
You may have seen - some time ago - my request for information regarding my late Father's M Type UW 5990. It was suggested that the driver of that car photographed in the 1950 Bisley trials could be G.J. Rea... but I am not convinced. Why would someone who had previously trialed new cars enter a 20 year old model which was clearly uncompetitive and well past it's best? Also, the photo of Rea and Wathes in an M type in the '34 Colmore trial makes no allowance for the passing of 16 years. He would have aged!!
I hope you are enjoying the PA.
Ray.
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1483 Posts |
Posted - 13/07/2023 : 11:13:00
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Chris. The two hills are several miles apart. Nailsworth Ladder starts from the outskirts of Nailsworth village (or maybe "little town") and zig-zags up onto Minchinhampton common. The Ladder itself comprises the first "zig". I am told that the Ladder is a public road, and therefore you could try driving your double-decker bus up it - but I wouldn't advise it. As a trials hill, the Ladder is still in regular use and still presents a challenge, due mainly to a rather vicious step about two thirds of the way up. If you take it too slow, you will stall. Too fast and the car will leave the ground.
Mill Lane is at Prestwood on the outskirts of Cheltenham. As far as I am aware, it is no konger used for trials because the hill has washed away over the years and is now almost impassable for vehicles. You can walk it alright, but leave your bus at home. The wall at Mill Lane is on the driver's side and was low enough to provide a good seat for spectators. The hill at Nailsworth is on the passenger's side and is too high other than for the very fit.
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1965 Posts |
Posted - 13/07/2023 : 12:38:43
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Thanks very much for your reply, Colin, I don’t think I will try it in a double decker bus! Just to clarify, in the picture of my car in The Sports Car it mentions Nailsworth but is the car actually pictured on Mill Lane?
Your help is much appreciated.
Best wishes,
Chris
AYT 197 is the Magnette as you know. |
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1483 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 13:29:40
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Hello Chris. I am sure that Mr Day made a very fine climb of Nailsworth Ladder on the trial pictured in The Sports Car Magazine, but the picture of AYT 197 is of the car on Mill Lane at Prestwood. Mill Lane features a deep gully with steep banks on both sides, and the low wall (ideal for sitting on) on the right-hand side. The Ladder is every bit as steep but is wider and flatter with a high wall on the left-hand side which is much too high for most people to sit on. There is quite a wide flat area between the wall and the track which is usually filled by three or four rows of spectators. Both very interesting hills, but all of the pictures shown in this thread are of Mill Lane, not The Ladder. It is disappointing the the house magazine of the MGCC should contain such errors or ambiguities, but I am afraid that it happened quite frequently.
Best wishes, Colin B.
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1965 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 18:11:05
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Hello, Colin.
Many thanks for clearing that up for me, much appreciated!
Best wishes,
Chris |
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John Reid
United Kingdom
704 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 18:55:47
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Chris, in the current Triple-M Yearbook (copies available from the Librarian!), the first photograph illustrating the 2022 Competition Report is Bill Bennett in FW3909 climbing Nailsworth Ladder. He was participating in the 2022 Cotswold Clouds Trial.
The top of the photo shows the high wall to which Colin refers, and Bill was keeping to the left to avoid the notorious step.
The Nailsworth wall shows more clearly in this period picture of Hasendonck in MG4385.
We walked Mill Lane about 25 years ago, and it is definitely no longer in use. My photo was taken a bit further up than those illustrating this topic.
John R
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6013 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 19:15:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin Butchers
It is disappointing the the house magazine of the MGCC should contain such errors or ambiguities, but I am afraid that it happened quite frequently.
Colin,
If by 'house magazine', you mean Safety Fast!, I don’t think it has been referenced in this discussion, or have I missed it?
Simon J
J3437
P.S. Good to see you at Pre War Prescott on Saturday. |
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1965 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 19:24:33
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Hello, Simon.
This is the magazine referred to by Colin and was produced during the 1930s. This example is from January, 1936.
Chris
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1965 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 19:27:39
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Hello, John.
Many thanks for your information, I have the Yearbook and will look it up this evening after a couple of hours work on my N type!
Cheers,
Chris |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6013 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 19:41:41
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Thanks, Chris, but was The Sportscar ever the house magazine of the MG Car Club?
Simon J
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Westbury
United Kingdom
1965 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 19:46:47
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Yes it was, Simon.
Please see attached picture.
Regards,
Chris
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6013 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2023 : 21:38:34
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Many thanks, Chris, I wasn’t aware of that.
Simon J
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Mike the M
United Kingdom
481 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2023 : 20:55:29
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Up to a few weeks ago I had quite a lot on the Abingdon to Abingdon Trials from 1932 to 1939.
I was collecting all the entry lists and 'marrying' photos of registration numbers with the entry number, then completing details of the drivers where they lived and wife details.
Unfortunately I was 'hacked' and it was all deleted!!
However, I am attempting to revive it all again so that it can be put on the MMM forum at some stage.
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