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George Eagle
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 29/07/2013 : 18:42:44
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Definitely two different pictures the second of which is reversed!!
Look at the position of the front wheels, first photo taken from just ahead of car and second a side view. Rear view mirror can be seen in both photos.
QED 
George
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Edited by - George Eagle on 29/07/2013 18:44:10 |
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Pat Widdup
New Zealand
399 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2013 : 02:55:08
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They could be New Zealand plates. I have seen that configuration before
Cheers Pat |
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
748 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2013 : 21:55:59
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Mmm, no identity yet and it seems unlikely we'll ever find out, but I have now at least learned the car was owned by one Jack Hulbert from Auckland in the late 1940s and that's who the pictures came from.
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
748 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2013 : 21:58:40
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And do you know the chassis number of the M-type, Pat?
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Peter Croft
New Zealand
54 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2017 : 07:51:39
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Hello Cathelijne,
This is an old post but.................
Re the photo of the J2 Registered number 151.584. The car is a NZ one , the photograph taken mid 36 to mid 37 as that number plate was only valid between those dates because New Zealand changed its plates every year to indicate the road tax had been paid. A system that changed in 1963.
You say that the car has been identified as belonging to Jack Hulbert but I do not think so as I understand Jack obtained his car after WW2
If you examine the 8 photos of Jacks car I will try and send through, you will see a number of differences. And whats more, I reckon that in 1937 Jack would have been far too young to own the featured car, even if he had the money , and according to his wife he did not.
From memory she also said that Jack painted the car black. One of the photos show it a light body colour and one, with the bonnet open shows that only the outside was painted.
If I can not attach the pictures I will E mail them to you and could you please post them .
Peter and J 3096
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
748 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2018 : 15:44:32
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The other lovely pics Peter mentioned of the Hulbert car:
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
748 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2018 : 15:51:42
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Peter also sent me this bit from a magazine indicating the pictures actually date back to 1939/40 instead of 1936/37. (No idea how to turn it upright, sorry.)
As an aside, I have no idea why I said the first pic I posted was the Hulbert car, because I can find no reference to someone telling me thus in my old emails ...
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Peter Croft
New Zealand
54 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2018 : 20:46:40
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Thanks for posting the extra photos Cathelijne
We now have two mystery cars.
Was Hulbert's car originally cream/white etc as the photo appears to indicate? Perhaps an intelligent guess of the cars age by dating clues eg windscreen wiper motor etc and then an inspection of the J2 records could throw some light on its possible identity.
Re the date of the New Zealand number plates.
Clearly I am or the "From the Archive" caption is incorrect . The 1936/37 plates were yellow with black numerals and the symbol used as the centre spacing was an inverted triangle, and positioned lower centre.
The 1939/40 plates were orange with black numerals but the centre spacing symbol was a pentagon positioned mid-centre.
The photo shows the the symbol in the lower centre so the date must be 36/37.
The advantage with the previous NZ system of changing number plates to show the road tax had been paid is that a photo can be dated but which car ? All very frustrating .
Note the rubber or canvas front wing extensions to prevent stones from, in those days the mostly unsealed shingle country roads, removing most of the paint from the side of the car and the rear wing leading edge. It is still an issue in New Zealand.
Peter and J3096 |
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2018 : 20:59:14
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Heads Up.
Brian.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6560 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2018 : 21:17:16
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The photos of the car when it has the dark paint would suggest it's an early car as it has the unstrengthened windscreen supports which would suggest January 1933 at the latest as there are photos dated early February showing the strengthened windscreen. It also has the Petrolift and seemingly a suction wiper motor as well as the early flat backed fuel tank. The car when painted white seems to have gained the strengthened windscreen supports and an electric wiper in place of the suction one, i.e. in the centre. So I would suggest that the white colour came later and is not original.
As to which car it is, J2312 (colour blue) was exported to New Zealand in November 1932 to a Miss P Judd of Wellington and this car still survives with Register number 1487. Another J2 exported there, J2302, is now apparently in Gaydon Museum. The records don't appear to show any other J2s going to New Zealand Of course that doesn't mean that there weren't any - just that the records don't show any. But J2312 seems a possibility.
Simon J
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3178 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2018 : 20:13:06
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Is this J2302 ? It was photographed in Gaydon Museum.
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KevinA
New Zealand
713 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2018 : 21:09:15
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Or could the Gaydon car be 4213? The centre badge is certainly a NZ vintage car club one
http://www.mgcars.co.nz/J2.htm
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6560 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2018 : 21:39:39
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I believe that the information in the chassis file for J2302 says that it is now in the Gaydon museum
Simon J
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NZ_monty
New Zealand
76 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2018 : 21:11:24
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Originally posted by KevinA
Or could the Gaydon car be 4213? The centre badge is certainly a NZ vintage car club one
http://www.mgcars.co.nz/J2.htm
4213 is my J2 (currently on a boat from the USA), reminds me I must update the website! However it had swept wings 1966 and from the factory so unlikely to be this car. |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3693 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2018 : 21:36:53
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Congratulations on your purchase, Daniel. Our J2 Registrar, John Emmett (contact details are in the contacts page - see this website's front page) is the person to contact. He will be grateful to receive (and exchange) details of the car and its history, previous owners etc etc....
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
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