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25/07/2022 : Register Committee Update   (234)
Towards the end of 2019 John Summers stepped forward to volunteer to take over the vacant role as the Register’s Hon. Treasurer. This was greatly welcomed by the committee and he took up the reins at the beginning of 2020, only to be confronted with the chaos brought about by Covid, as well as management difficulties within the main MGCC and other complications for the Register.

Despite these 'challenges', John has stuck to his task, but he did ask some time ago to relinquish the role, to which the committee very reluctantly agreed. We owe a debt of gratitude to all our volunteers and especially so to John, who has always been ready to guide and advise the committee with welcome, fresh ideas.

John is in the course of an orderly handover over to his successor, Graham Duncan, who has now been co-opted to the committee. In line with MGCC rules Graham will be up for election at our AGM which will take place on Zoom on Sunday September the 11th at 8:00 pm UK time.

Graham retired in 2020 after nearly 45 years working in the oil and gas industry, designing and building pipelines in locations all around the world. He is also experienced in financial management.
In his words: [i]“My MG journey has been MGB, MGA and now a MGF – 1996 VVC 34,000 miles one owner before me (please don’t choke!) So, I need to find an MMM (J2 preferred) to have any sort of credibility with the Register!”[/i]

In welcoming Graham, we also express warmest thanks to John for everything he has done to support the Register.

27/05/2022 : A word of thanks and recognition from the Register committee   (233)
We had a Register committee meeting yesterday evening, when it was unanimously agreed to award Tony Richards and Ron Warr the John Kidder trophy for 2022 for all of their hard work, patience, tenacity and the huge effort that they devoted to organising and bringing the Stilton and Pork Pie tour to a very successful and enjoyable conclusion. Congratulations!

In truth their work has spanned at least three years, so to call it the 2022 award is a bit of a misnomer, but the committee decided that although it is still only May, theirs (and that of their accomplices Ruth and Barbara) was a most worthy contribution and deserving of recognition.

For those who may not know, the Trophy is awarded annually to "the person or persons (not being a committee member) whom the Triple-M Register Committee considers merits the award on the grounds of either:-
A notable performance during the year.
or
A notable contribution to the Register during the year."

I'm sure that everyone who took part in the S&PP tour will agree that this is a well-merited award.

12/09/2021 : AGM and contacts update   (230)
The Register's 2021 AGM was held on 12th September on Zoom.
20 Members attended including those from Australia, Holland and the USA.
Barny Creaser (Registrar Co-ordinator) and Tim Luffingham (Events & tours) have decided to stand down from the committee and we thank them both for their support to the Register.
The current committee line up and a list of the model-specific Registrars is on our contacts page at https://www.triple-mregister.org/contacts.asp

02/12/2017 : A Statement by the Triple-M Register of the MG Car Club Ltd.   (218)
The committee of the Triple-M Register ('the Register') has been concerned to note various comments made on social media and in other areas about the purpose, function and operation of the Register. These comments indicate that these matters and the significance of inclusion of Triple-M cars in the Register's Listing of cars is not fully understood, or is being disregarded.

For the avoidance of doubt the Register makes the following statement:

1. The objectives and guidelines for the operation of the Register are set out in full on the Register's website and in the Register's Listing of cars, which is published annually;
2. The most recent Objectives and Guidelines were revised and approved by the Register committee on 1st December, 2017;
3. The Register Listing is a compilation of information kept for the Register's own purposes. It is maintained and published for general information. The inclusion of any car in the listing does not in any way signify or confer authenticity to that car;
4. Neither the Register, its committee, nor the MG Car Club Ltd. ('MGCC') accept any responsibility or liability for the accuracy of the information in the Register Listing;
5. The Register Listing has been compiled since the formation of the Register in 1961. The compilation of information is done by unpaid volunteer members of the MGCC. Information about listed cars is drawn largely from information provided by their owners, historically in most cases without detailed enquiry;
6. The Register now has a policy and practice of engagement with owners to ensure that all relevant information about a car may be recorded as reliably as reasonably possible for the benefit of current and future owners. Increasingly that means that the Register will ask owners to provide detailed images and information about their cars;
7. When a car is first accepted for inclusion in the Register Listing it is assigned a Register number. A function of that number is to 'date stamp' the car's inclusion in the Register Listing. It does not signify an endorsement of the car's identity or authenticity, its history or provenance;
8. Private and trade sellers and auctioneers of cars have on occasions mistakenly advertised cars for sale on the basis that they 'are listed on the Register and are thus 'authenticated' by the Register'. Statements such as "MGCC MMM Register No. confirming its authenticity" are commonplace. Such statements misrepresent the situation;
9. At no time does the inclusion of a car in, or its exclusion from the Register Listing, or the possession or lack of a Register Number, signify an endorsement of the car's identity or authenticity, its history or provenance or lack thereof;
10. All would-be purchasers of a Triple-M car and/or those wishing to deal in them are therefore strongly advised to make their own enquiries about the car before entering into a commitment for purchase or sale;
11. The Register Committee's general policy is that it will not comment publicly about the registration details of any particular car;
12. Any owner of a listed Triple-M car may discuss the classification of their car with the Committee;
13. Interested parties may contact the Register committee for guidance about this statement and its practical implications.

This statement was approved by the Committee of the MGCC Triple-M Register on 1st December, 2017

Nick

03/05/2016 : THE NEW TRIPLE-M REGISTER DATABASE - IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!   (206)
THE REGISTER DATABASE HAS BEEN LAUNCHED!
A Register team has been working very hard over the past months to create the framework for a totally new database of all known Triple-M cars and their current and former owners. The database content, which is the M.G. Car Club's prime record of surviving Triple-M cars, has been assembled from a variety of sources. These sources include the existing Triple-M Register records, including many thousands of paper files and other records and, importantly, information and material provided by current and former owners.

We are pleased to report that we have now reached a stage where the database is now able to be launched.

A NEW AND IMPORTANT FEATURE IS THAT DATA CAN NOW BE VIEWED ON LINE.

We encourage everyone to look at the database - access details are below - and feed back any general questions or comments to a special area in the discussion Forum which our webmaster Nick Feakes has created. Any specific questions or suggested corrections about a specific car should be addressed to the Registrar at grahamarrondelle@yahoo.com

We are rolling the project out in two stages. STAGE ONE IS NOW LIVE. Stage two will follow shortly.

STAGE ONE - PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION
To access this information, click on 'Register database' on the left hand side of the main menu on the website home page. From there you can select three options:

1. 'Register your car'. This is a facility for owners to register their cars with the MGCC Triple-M Register;
2. 'Browse the Register'. This is a chassis number search facility which will show summary details and, where available, pictures of each registered car;
3. Statistics. This area shows the total number of currently registered Triple-M cars as well as model by model.

By following options 2 and 3, anybody at all can access the database to see a limited amount of general data about all registered cars. No personal data will be revealed.

The 'Pictures' menu on the website home page also has a link to members' cars, where some of the above information is also available.

STAGE TWO - WHICH WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLY TO REGISTERED OWNERS OF A TRIPLE-M CAR
When the database goes fully 'live' shortly, owners can apply to have direct access to data for their individual car. They will be able to view information and images of their car (but nobody else's car!). Importantly, owners will also be able to use the on-line facility to request amendments to their car details and their own personal details. Indeed, owners will also be actively encouraged to submit photographs of the car and its main identifying features, documents and other information.

This facility for owners to view their records will be available solely to owners who are recorded as the owner of a Triple-M car that has a Register number.

Owner access to car data will be restricted and safeguarded by a personal ID and password. We will shortly be contacting owners by e-mail to advise them how to apply for their personal ID and password. This means that we must have your current e-mail address on record! Please visit your Website Discussion Forum profile as soon as possible to check that all your details are up to date!

Please note: It will be a pre-condition for owner access to the database that owners first send the Register an image of their car's chassis number stamping, preferably of the front chassis dumb iron or, if that is not possible, the stamping on the inside of the bonnet hinge.

Cars without a Register Number.
If you own a car that does not have a Register number we would welcome hearing from you to discuss whether your car may be eligible for inclusion on the Register. The criteria for inclusion on the Register can be seen at http://www.triple-mregister.org/registerlogin.asp


How we manage the database
The database framework has been created by Koen Struijk, a Dutch MG enthusiast who owns a Triple-M car (PA) and an MGA. The Register is extremely grateful to Koen for the many hours that he has devoted to the project and its future management, without which none of this could have happened. We're also grateful for the work that webmaster Nick Feakes has done to enable access to the database via our Register website.

All information held on the Register is under the control of the Registrar, Graham Arrondelle, who is a Triple-M Register committee member. With around 4,000 cars to be accounted for, his is a huge task. In order to make things more manageable the Register committee recently decided to allocate responsibility for particular models to 'sub-registrars'.

The sub-registrars will deal with day to day matters and owners will find that communications about their cars will increasingly be dealt with by the sub-registrars.

The following people are the sub-registrars:
M-types Mike Dalby
D-types and J1 Ted Hack
C-types Cathelijne Spoelstra
J2 John Emmett
PA Dick Morbey
PB Graham Arrondelle
J3, J4, Q and R Bob Milton
K-types Peter Green
F, L, N-types & Comp cars George Eagle

Lew Palmer of the North American NAMMMR in the USA will also be working with us to ensure that the records of USA-resident cars are complete and consistent with the main Register.

We are very pleased that we have been able to bring about this improvement in our systems. It is now up to all of us to ensure that information held by the Triple-M Register is accurate and up to date - something that will be to the benefit of present and future owners.


Dick Morbey
Register Chairman

10/10/2014 : Factory Photographs Gallery   (188)
Triple-M Register Factory Photographs Gallery.

The Register team has been busy creating digital images of period Factory photographs contained in the Register’s archives. These contain a wealth of information about the original assembly and finish details of our cars. We’re happy to announce that we have now teamed up with a supplier, Photobox which means that you can now view and buy high quality prints of these photographs on-line via the Register Library at a reasonable cost.

Altogether over 350 images are available and they can be viewed and purchased via the on-line Register Library at http://www.triple-mshop.org or by visiting the Gallery at: http://www.photoboxgallery.com/triplemgallery

The images are arranged by model types and there are additional sections, one showing Competition Cars and the other, ‘Other Photos', showing pictures of cars in production at the Works, some vintage models, experimental cars etc.

Some of the original photos are non-standard sizes, so during the order process you will be able to check and adjust the fit of your chosen image within your requested print size. We have a number of print sizes available from 6”x4” up to 12” x 8”. Several interesting products are also available, at this stage including coasters and mouse mats on offer. Other items of regalia may be available at a future stage.

Purchase, production, shipping and any queries will be handled directly by Photobox and not the Triple-M Register. However if you do have any general questions or feedback Mark Dolton can be contacted via email at: Triplemgallery@gmail.com

This project has taken a while to finalise and thanks are due to Robin Hamblett for many hours spent scanning and optimising the original photographs and to Mark Dolton who has been instrumental in launching this on-line facility. We hope that owners will find the facility useful and will support it by purchasing some of these invaluable images.

16/12/2013 : The Triple-M Register - Our role and car identity issues   (174)
Most of us who visit this website are Triple-M enthusiasts, the majority of whom are very familiar with the cars and the way in which the Triple-M Register exists to serve their interests. For those less familiar with the setup, it may be helpful to be reminded that the Triple-M Register is a specific Register of the M.G. Car Club Ltd., catering for the ohc-engined MG cars built from 1929 to 1936.

What is sometimes less well known by the typical owner is the significance of having a car included in our ‘Register Listing’ and the ground rules and guidelines which govern the compilation of that Register. The criteria and guidelines relating to inclusion of a car in the Register and the allocation of Register numbers to individual cars are set out in full on this website on the ’Register your car’ page at http://www.triple-mregister.org/registerlogin.asp

The reason for drawing this to everyone’s attention is to allay possible confusion that may exist in people’s minds about the ‘Register Listing’.

The role of the Triple-M Register is not to be the ultimate adjudicator on car identity issues. The purpose and objectives of the Register are clearly stated as being, amongst other things, to “maintain a register of surviving cars, recording their history and other relevant information.”

The Register Listing is therefore “a compilation of information kept for the Register’s own purposes. It is maintained and published for general information only and does not confer authenticity”.

It is important to keep this in mind, because some owners as well as some external organisations such as dealers and auctioneers tend to attribute more significance to a car’s inclusion in the Register than is perhaps appropriate.

Nevertheless our Registrar Robin Hamblett has the unenviable but fascinating task of keeping the Register Listing up to date. In doing so he relies on all owners keeping him informed about changes of ownership or other changes affecting their cars.

Following a recent development, and in order that our records can be as accurate as possible, Robin is now aiming to collect more detailed information about individual cars, which he will typically do whenever a change of ownership is notified. From now on, he and the committee will also be looking more closely at cars currently included in the Register Listing with the aim of clarifying anomalous or ambiguous situations whenever these come to light.

Considering that most Triple-M cars were built 80 or more years ago, it is scarcely surprising that many of them have undergone changes over the years. Some parts of our records date back several decades and most are based on information volunteered by owners or former owners. Keeping track of this is no mean task!

The committee is nevertheless currently focused on doing whatever we can to ensure the integrity of our records and thereby ‘Maintain the Breed’; we would be grateful for everyone’s co-operation in ensuring that our records of your own car/s are as accurate as possible. Please feel free to contact Robin or a Committee member if you’d like to discuss your own car or any particular vehicle.

Thank you.
Dick Morbey



27/06/2003 : Welcome to the Triple-M website!   (3)
Please browse these pages, digest the information, give us your comments, and most important of all, send us items that you think will be of interest to other Triple-M owners. Remember this is your site.

This News Page will let you know of important changes or updates to the site as well as highlighting news of other Triple-M activity.

Tell us of events in your area which you think would attract Triple-M owners. Send us the details, including organisers contact details, and we will add them to the Events Page. And don’t forget a few lines for the Event Reports Page, to tell others what happened or remind people what they missed!

If you have any Triple-M related pictures you would like to share with other Triple-M owners just send them to us and we will fill a library that others can enjoy. Include the approximate date taken (the library is structured in Monthly blocks) and a brief description. If you already have a web site that stores photos you have taken and you would like to share them with a wider audience, advise our Webmaster and a direct link can be arranged.

The latest Car Of The Year, Speed Championship and Slade Trophy tables are listed along with the Rules for each competition. You can send your COTY claims to the Competition Secretary by e-mail or post.

A Retro page is included which will reproduce a selected number of old MG Magazine articles.

Register your Triple-M car, or update the details we hold on your Triple-M car by using our on-line service. Updates will be sent direct to our Registrar.

If there is a topic, technical or otherwise, you wish to discuss with a wider audience, check out the Forum page. You can view the content of any Forum but you will have to Register and Login to add to the discussion or raise your own topic. Registration is simple but essential. Please follow the instructions from the relevant pull-down menus. The area is under the overall control of the Webmaster. Please do not add inappropriate or offensive comment which, in any case, is liable to be removed and may result in your Registration being withdrawn.

If you want to buy or sell a Triple-M car please use this site, it's free. Supply a description of your car and an optional photograph. Please indicate if the picture is not of the actual car for sale and, most important, please indicate if it is a private or trade sale.

It's now up to you! Please help to keep this site topical, it is for your benefit. Don't delay, do it NOW!

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